Talk:Wine from the United Kingdom

Beer and Oxymorons

I have removed the reference to an oxymoron:

• It could be construed as POV
• Technically, even if you understand the implicit joke, it isn't an oxymoron.

Also, it's usually best to start an article with the name of the subject in bold, so I have removed the reference to beer.

Portnadler 09:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Non-grape wines?

Should drinks such as elderberry wine feature in this category?

Ash (talk) 14:13, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Global warming

Is there any proof for global warming in the 70s, or is that someones POV? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.71.34.14 (talk) 01:19, 21 January 2007 (UTC).

Revision as of 17:51, 14 July 2014 37.152.212.122 added this line:

• Figures on yields and ripeness have so far shown no evidence of a warming.

It was added without citation. Furthermore, was positioned between the preceding statement and the reference for that preceding statement, making it incorrectly appear that the work supported the new sentence. In fact, it makes no mention of of figures on yields and ripeness. SlowJog (talk) 01:26, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Rewrite

Badly needs a complete rewrite, which I'm happy to add to my to do list, but for now I'll just tag it to the Wine Project and say that I support the merger of British wine FlagSteward 15:02, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Scottish wine

Non-existent, right?--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 00:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Tax

"Few wine drinkers are aware that the tax paid by most wineries in Europe, exists only as a duty set by the established vineyard themselves, and a mere 12p per litre in France (where duty is regulated by the government). In the UK, wieries(sic) can expect to pay at least £2.54 per litre of wine they produce, prior to VAT or any additional labour, bottling, labeling(sic) costs etc."

Nonsense - the tax levels are the same where the wine is sold. French wine sold in the UK pays the same tax. English wine exported to France pays the same tax as the French.

The higher tax in the UK makes all wine more expensive and so makes English wine more competitive, otherwise French wine would be so cheap in the UK it would be very hard to compete.

The only effect is that caused by people going to France on day trips to buy wine, buying the cheapest they will return with French wine.

If 4million bottles is 1% of consumption 400million bottles are consumed. QuentinUK (talk) 00:07, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Photo

"English" Wine Shop, Rohtang Pass, northern India. 2004.

"English" Wine Shop, Rohtang Pass, northern India. 2004. Is this wine shop selling English wine? In the window is "8PM Whiskey" an Indian brand. Probably just a shop name with no meaning - it doesn't look like it sells expensive wine. I could be wrong. Add back with a reference from a reliable source.

"English wine" is also a common generic term used in India meaning "Western spirits". So not relevant to this article.

QuentinUK (talk) 00:11, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

The Hindi text reads "Theka sharaab desi", meaning "national alcohol shop", so it is unlikely to have anything truly English, except perhaps re-filled bottles. Ash (talk) 14:10, 15 June 2012 (UTC) 14:09, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Addition of John Edginton under 20th Century

This section added by JohnBoyFlash is still un-referenced, and upon further research I cannot find any information about this man. In fact the Oxford Companion to Wine sites a different man Major-General Sir Guy Salisbury-Jones as the first person to establish commercial vineyards in Hambledon in Hampshire in the early 1950s. I will be adding this and removing the text about John Edginton unless references predating that of the Oxford Companion emerge Firebuild (talk) 10:12, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Trotter's Scottish wine

"Anyone for a wee glass of Chateau McHaggis? It's been branded undrinkable. So what did the fearless ROBERT HARDMAN make of Scotland's first home-grown wine..." The Daily Mail. 17 July 2015.

"Phwoar! It’s certainly an opinionated little number. There are traces of swimming pool with a strong hint of fruit.." But apparently Mr Trotter "has produced Scotland’s first home-grown wine since Roman times." --Hillbillyholiday ^talk 16:27, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Ooo, a little bird tells me you're not the only Daily Whale drinker in these sporran-infested parts. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:49, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

New America

There's reference to "Explorers of New America" and I have searched the Internet. New America strikes no chord. I have no idea what the author means, or I'd attempt to clarify the sentence. Someone more knowledgeable might take a shot at fixing it. JohnHarris (talk) 13:33, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Recent edit

User:Spskelton, re: this edit. Why is this "totally erroneous material"? Is the supporting source here wholly fallacious? Likewise this material which you removed, on 2 November 2018, with the edit summary "Removed inaccurate information"? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:16, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

There's text in the WineGuy reference that exactly matches text in the WP article. Such as: "The first English wines were influenced by the sweet German wines like Liebfraumilch and Hock that were popular in the 1970s and were blended white and red sweet wines, called "cream wine" (creams)." Which came first? Sorry, I don't have the time to do the necessary archaeology.

-- EdJogg (talk) 13:17, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. A response from User:Spskelton, within the last 14 months, might have been nice. I will try and have a closer look. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:33, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

It would, wouldn't it? To help you on your way (possibly, I was typing this as you replied -- edit clash!):

A quick internet search for (john edginton wine), and the first entry is to LinkedIn: the owner of a vineyard. Can't find a website for the vineyard itself, but this link (http://www.ukvines.co.uk/vineyards/fonthill.htm) may start to shed light on the confusion in the article. It is possible that the vineyard concerned no longer produces wine at all, as the website for Tefford Wines leads to a decorative barrel hire company!

Another search result led to an entry on this very talk page -- see "Addition of John Edginton under 20th Century" above! Whatever, the references to John Edginton have spread far and wide through mirroring the Wikipedia article, so some serious correction is needed.

It's all too much for me! (Only came looking for a definition for "British Wine"!!)

EdJogg (talk) 13:38, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Just to mention that generally "British wine" is a name for wine made in Britain from imported grape juice, whereas "English wine" is a name for wine made from grapes grown in southern Britain, leaving an air of mystery over the possibility of "Welsh English wine". You would have to ask the Americans for what they think "UK wine" means. Imaginatorium (talk) 08:44, 24 December 2023 (UTC)