Talk:Wolfgang Uhlmann

Latest comment: 16 years ago by Brittle heaven in topic Discrepancy on German Ch. wins


Discrepancy on German Ch. wins

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This appears inaccurate. OC co-author Ken Whyld's own "Chess: The Records" shows Uhlmann winning the GDR championship eight times 1955-85, not eleven times 1954-86.

This discrepancy is well known. The article German Chess Championship mostly uses information gleaned from other sources and these show the situation prior to tie-breaks being taken into account - suggesting that they weren't used to determine the champion. The Wolfgang Uhlmann article therefore reflects the content of that article for now, as it is uncertain whether the post-tie-break results (Whyld:Chess The Records) reflect the way the titles were awarded, or the way the prizes were shared. It should also be noted that whilst Whyld is normally very reliable, there are known to be a few errors and abnormalities in Chess:The Records. More research is probably needed on this one, if there are any German speakers out there.

For the record, the years in question are 1954 and 1983, although 1986 was also a shared win and may similarly have been subject to a tie-break. Brittle heaven (talk) 22:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

I withdraw my previous comments. While questions about tie-breaks remain, I am satisfied that at least some of the data on the East German Championship in "Chess: The Records" is inaccurate. For example, Whyld shows Fuchs as the DDR champion for 1954, but a ChessBase crosstable shows Uhlmann a clear winner that year, scoring 13-2 to finish 1½ points ahead of the field. So, at least on this subject, I can hardly consider that reference authoritative enough to contradict you. -- Taylor Kingston, 27 June 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.166.179 (talk) 00:03, 29 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
Okay - and thanks for that useful info on the 1954 edition. Brittle heaven (talk) 07:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Uhlmann is not an accountant, but a letterpress printer

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After agadmator (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OpBsD4lW7I) quipped about Uhlmann being accountant, I was surprised. In fact Uhlmann is a letterpress printer (compositor, pressman; someone printing books). The error is very likely a mistranslation: In German an accountant is a "Buch**halter**" while a letterpress printer is a "Buch**drucker**".

German page about Wolfgang Uhlmann: https://www.mz-web.de/mitteldeutschland/wolfgang-uhlmann-wird-80-ddr-schach-genie-gewann-gegen-fuenf-weltmeister-897444 "Uhlmann erlernte den Beruf des Buchdruckers." -> Uhlmann learned the trade of letterpress printing.