Talk:Women's British Open

Category:July sporting events

I am not sure that this article should be in Category:July sporting events, as the tournament is not always in July (in fact 2017 was in August and 2018 is scheduled to be in August). Dunarc (talk) 22:26, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

championship in women's professional golf?

Since it is an "OPEN Championship", the door is open to amateurs as well as professionals. So this tournament is not a "championship in women's professional golf".--Panpulha (talk) 16:08, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Name

At present it seems clear that "Women's British Open" remains the WP:COMMONNAME; "AIG Women's Open" only being used in recent weeks and "Women's Open" hardly being used at all. Anyone wishing to rename this article should follow WP:RM#CM. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 09:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Request for page move / name change

Request to change the name of the Championship and page title and all references to 'AIG Women's Open' instead of Women's British Open

The Championship has been title AIG Women's Open since 2020 and is under contract for that name for the next 5 years

 Not done As per the section above, this is not an uncontroversial request and would require a full discussion. Please follow the process at WP:RM#CM. Please also read article WP:NAMING guidelines. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 17:17, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 8 April 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 10:28, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

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Women's British Open → AIG Women's Open – Name of article should be changed on the basis that the tournament is now called the AIG Women's Open, it will be called that for at least four years and it is primarily referred to as such in contemporary news coverage of the event. This is in accordance with naming guidelines - "If the reliable sources written after the change is announced routinely use the new name, Wikipedia should follow suit and change relevant titles to match.” . My sources for such an assertion are as follows:. Note that these are fairly recent articles, talking not just the 2020 competition but the competition in general, and as such I believe the intention of major news outlets is to continue using the name 'AIG Women's Open' for the foreseeable future. I also believe these are all reputable sources with large audiences. Therefore, I believe that the name of the article should be changed to 'AIG Women's Open' to correspond with the new naming convention adopted by the mainstream press.

References

– Elprez10102 (talk) 12:59, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose. Women's British Open remains in common mainstream usage, for example in the past week we have: Golfweek, Golf Digest. In addition, we are not here to promote sponsors and it is reasonable to expect non-UK readers (in particular) will be looking for "British". _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 13:16, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

The first article cited does not refer to the competition in general, but specifically to the 2019 iteration of the tournament, which was indeed called the 'AIG Women's British Open'. I would argue the 2nd article is erroneous and does not reflect the majority of coverage of the tournament, as I cited in my original post. I understand that Wikipedia does not exist to promote sponsors and as such I would support simply calling it the 'Women's Open'. With regard to non-UK readers I would argue that while they are perhaps more likely for the time being to be searching for 'Women's British Open', that name is clearly erroneous (as demonstrated by the majority of media coverage) and that it would be more suitable for a redirect. Elprez10102 (talk) 13:27, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose move. "Women's British Open" is the common name, and we typically don't use advertiser names. O.N.R. ^(talk) 14:46, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I accept that the advertiser name could be dropped, but I would disagree with the assertion that 'Women's British Open' is the common name - the majority of media coverage about the tournament in general (not including mentions of specific, previous iteration of the tournament which were called 'Women's British Open') uses simply 'Women's Open' or 'AIG Women's Open', so the article name should be one of those two. Elprez10102 (talk) 13:27, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose. Generally much better not to have the sponsor's name for events, especially when there is a perfectly good name without it. Women's British Open is currently the best name. It's conceivable that Women's Open might move into common use but it's way too early for that either. Nigej (talk) 14:53, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I agree that the sponsor name could be dropped as obviously we don't want to be promoting AIG, but I would argue 'Women's Open' has already moved in to common use, as demonstrated by the several articles that I cited. Elprez10102 (talk) 13:27, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Honestly I can't see that's it's moved into common usage. Plenty of recent sources still use the "British" name. https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2021/01/12/usga-us-senior-womens-open-new-dates-womens-british-open/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikedojc/2021/03/30/women-amateurs-take-center-stage-at-the-anwa/ It true's that a number use the official name "AIG Women’s Open" but not many using plain "Women’s Open". Nigej (talk) 14:39, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

"Women's Open" should probably be a disambiguation page rather than redirecting here, with "U.S. Women's Open" seemingly an equally likely target (there are also many non-golf topics). _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 15:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose. We try to avoid sponsorship names. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:39, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Smyth Salver

The section on the Smyth Salver would be of greater interest if: a. the position of the awardee of the salver within the field for the Open was recorded after their name (e.g. T18); b. There was a note e.g. * which was noted below to relate to awardees of the Salver who later went on to win the Open; c. preference for providing this inorfmation in fuller form (e.g. country flag etc.) Antipodenz (talk) 01:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)