Talk:1993 World Trade Center bombing

This article says that Al Qaeda was responsible. Is that accurate?

Honest question. It's not proven that Yousef was a member of Al Qaeda at this time, I believe. And his uncle Khaled Sheik Mohammed didn't join Al Qaeda until the late 1990's. So, maybe some of the terrorists were Al Qaeda members (I don't know), but I don't think we can prove that all of them are. As such, I'm wondering whether or not it's appropriate to call this an Al Qaeda attack. Perhaps a more prominent editor could dig into this more. Thanks!

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Capacity?

The article says 50,000 people were evacuated from the buildings, but the NIST report on the later 9/11 attacks estimates an occupancy of only 17,400 on September 11, and states a maximum occupancy of 40,000. Is the 50,000 figure credible? One of the two sources doesn't confirm it and the other is a printed book. Rublov (talk) 04:06, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello Rublov,

The daily population of the towers complex is absolutely credible at 50,000, and more likely was probably higher. The office population itself was in the range of 35,000 to 40,000 every day. Yet, on any given day, there were always business visitors to the various companies that were housed in the WTC, ranging from hundreds to a conservative minimum of 10,000, albeit more. Further, daily tourist traffic, including Observation Deck visitors provided thousands more every day, not to mention the pedestrian hundreds, or thousands, who frequented the WTC Concourse shops and stores throughout the hours of operation. Lastly, one must allow for, or take into account, the tens of thousands who commuted through the facility, granted at various times, but were undeniably part of any active population count of both events of February 26, 1993 and September 11, 2001. 173.54.207.108 (talk) 19:44, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

First Photo isn't from the 1993 WTC bombing it's from the OKC bombing.

Here is an image of the Oklahoma City bombing featuring the same Allied Steel in the same position relative to the building. Link: [1] Compared to the photo in the articleit's clear it's the exact same vehicle and that it's not a photo of the 1993 WTC bombing.

This part is speculation, but the second image on the same page (FBI — FBI 100 - 1993 Trade Center Bombing) doesn't seem to be from the 1993 WTC bombing either because the size and types of bricks don't really match other photos of the event as well as the lack of support beams within the area they're in [2] [3] [4]. Eminxxxxx (talk) 00:50, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Escobar addition

The following text was recently added to the second paragraph of this article's lead, with three sources.

Although for a time it was thought that the author was Pablo Escobar leader of the Medellín Cartel, this version was discarded since by the beginning of 1993, Escobar had already lost his strength; his partners and hitmen were either in prison or killed. Also Escobar was actually offended and sent a handwritten note to the U.S. Ambassador to Colombia declaring his innocence. "You can take me off the list," he assured Ambassador Morris Busby, "because if I had done it I would be saying why I did it and what I want."

References

I removed it because the sourcing was not good, to say the least, but this was reverted on the grounds that my edit summary implied that only one of the sources was not good.

Now that I'm looking at the edit again, I see a few issues with it:

• It's not clear what Escobar was the author of. Maybe this is a translation issue, but usually we use the word "author" to refer to print media, not terrorist attacks.
• The sourcing is not good:
  • AskMen is a dodgy source for such a bold claim. Per WP:RSP, "There is no consensus on the reliability of AskMen."
  • The Daily Star is a deprecated source per WP:DAILYSTAR, "due to its reputation for publishing false or fabricated information."
  • The Zenda Libros source looks like a blog.
• Even if it is true that Escobar was suspected, it shouldn't be in the lead, but further down in the article (such as in the Criminal cases section). Putting this in the lead, especially when Escobar was cleared as a suspect, is undue weight.

– Epicgenius (talk) 21:13, 29 September 2024 (UTC)