Talk:Wrestling at the 2004 Summer Olympics – Women's freestyle 72 kg
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Requested move 15 November 2018
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: not moved (non-admin closure) JC7V (talk) 19:41, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Wrestling at the 2004 Summer Olympics – Women's freestyle 72 kg → Wrestling at the 2004 Summer Olympics – Women's freestyle heavyweight
- Wrestling at the 1904 Summer Olympics – Men's freestyle bantamweight → Wrestling at the 1904 Summer Olympics – Freestyle bantamweight
- Wrestling at the 1972 Summer Olympics – Men's freestyle 57 kg → Wrestling at the 1972 Summer Olympics – Freestyle bantamweight
- Wrestling at the 2004 Summer Olympics – Men's freestyle 55 kg → Wrestling at the 2004 Summer Olympics – Men's freestyle bantamweight
- Wrestling at the 1908 Summer Olympics – Men's Greco-Roman super heavyweight → Wrestling at the 1908 Summer Olympics – Greco-Roman super heavyweight
- Wrestling at the 1972 Summer Olympics – Men's Greco-Roman +100 kg → Wrestling at the 1972 Summer Olympics – Greco-Roman super heavyweight
- Wrestling at the 2004 Summer Olympics – Men's Greco-Roman 120 kg → Wrestling at the 2004 Summer Olympics – Men's Greco-Roman super heavyweight
– I suggest that the Olympic wrestling article names are in need of an overhaul to achieve consistent, meaningful and unambiguous naming. We have a complete set of articles up until 1936 and the naming convention is as follows: "Wrestling at the <yyyy> Summer Olympics – Men's <style> <weight class name>". We then have articles from 1968 onwards and they follow the following convention: "Wrestling at the <yyyy> Summer Olympics – Men's <style> <weight limit> kg".
- Firstly, I suggest that "Men's" can be dropped from the article title as prior to 2004, as only men competed.
- Secondly, "Men's" and "Women's" should be consistently part of the article names from 2004 onwards to avoid confusion.
- Thirdly, it's very confusing to list the weight limit in the article name given that the limits have been adjusted over the years. It's much easier to follow what is going on when the weight class name is used. This also makes it simpler to cross-reference to the main reference database, Sports Reference, as they use the weight class name with their bios and not the weight limit.
I might add that if adopted, this would bring the naming conventions in line with those for boxing. To test whether there is support for these suggestions I'll put a few select articles up for formal discussion. If this turns out to be uncontentious, we can simply move the remaining articles. If consensus isn't clear we can put all the articles through a formal move proposal. Schwede66 19:56, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose, there is no such thing as "weight class name" you can't find an official source for example to call 55kg as bantamweight. some unofficial websites (including sports reference) may use such names just they can categorize them better. they used to use these names long time ago but not in last 40-50 years. Actually it's better to use the weight limit because they changed it so many times. I think even in amateur boxing they don't use such names nowadays. Mohsen1248 (talk) 20:14, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose, the weight classes change too often, no need for this confusion. Weight limit in the other hand isn't confusing - it's actually the only information you need from the article title. And ofcourse official sources to back my claim: https://www.olympic.org/wrestling-greco-roman & https://www.olympic.org/wrestling-freestyle Pelmeen10 (talk) 04:20, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per the above. Weight limits are unambiguous and offically recognized as well. - Darwinek (talk) 22:46, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. This is a ridiculous proposal. The governing body uses the numerical values to classify categories. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 04:57, 17 November 2018 (UTC)