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Proposal: make this into a redirect to the The Relativity of Wrong, and add a section about this quote there

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Let's merge! . ExplodingCabbage (talk) 20:10, 15 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

To the extent that the article is actually about the quote (& concept described therein) from Asimov's book, it would be better for it to simply be a section in the article about the book itself, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Relativity_of_Wrong. The quote is not notable enough to deserve its own article (otherwise we'd need one for every famous quote) and there is no evidence here that the *concept* is either.

Furthermore, the subject matter of the article is somewhat unclear. The description suggests that it is about the concept put forward by Asimov, but also asserts this is the same as "Pauli's proverb" (not so; as this article's own source notes, the name "Pauli's proverb" is used in reference to things that are "not even wrong", about which another Wikpedia article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong already exists), and in addition to THAT the article currently chooses to use the title "wronger than wrong" to ostensibly describe Asimov's concept - but that is not Asimov's wording, but rather some wording used in a silly Scientific American article that refers to Asimov's concept, and so far as I can tell the name "wronger than wrong" was used there primarily to allow the rhetorical flourish of "not even wronger than wrong" at the end. This "wronger than wrong" name carries with it a strange philosophical implication that this class of reasoning error is IN GENERAL more wrong than ordinary wrongness (a silly assertion not made by Asimov).

So what is the article actually meant to be about - Asimov's concept, Pauli's orthogonal concept, or Shermer's dubious alternative version of Asimov's concept? Beats me. It seems to me like this article is an unfixable mess and the best remedy is to just nuke it, add a passage about this quote on the article about Asimov's book instead, and make this URL be a redirect to there.

If nobody objects, I'll go ahead and do this next time I check back here (in at least a week's time). ExplodingCabbage (talk) 16:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Should add a formal merge template to this article and a "mergefrom" template to the other article. AnonMoos (talk) 11:21, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Support - this seems like a fine merge target, I don't think this concept of "wronger than wrong" gets much use outside of Asimov's usage Psychastes (talk) 16:50, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

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