Talk:Wye River Memorandum

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Looks like just a full transcript of a political memorandum... AlbinoMonkey ^(Talk) 13:40, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Updated and turned into article

Recent edits and elimination of the diplomatic "bobble-di-gook" with additional links and categories added makes this into a very good NPOV article for now. IZAK 08:26, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Added Pollard issue

I've added the Jonathan Pollard issue to the intro because it was major news at the time and almost caused the deal not to be signed. I think it's very NPOV but feel free to reword as necesary.

The Machine 15:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 April 2017

Change dead link in external links section from:

http://www.state.gov/www/regions/nea/981023_interim_agmt.html

To official archive link:

https://2001-2009.state.gov/p/nea/rls/22694.htm

because it is clearly the official archived version of the page from the dead link. If further confirmation is desired, see the archive dot org version of the dead link as it appeared on and before April 26, 2013. Clarification: please nevertheless place in the page the state dot gov archive location of the item. That is now and for the future, in effect, the item itself, while the archive dot org copy is a third party's copy. They're a very good third party but still a third party. I am only elaborating in order to be very clear about my request. As far as I know and imagine, there is not and will not be any controversy over this request. Minopret (talk) 15:24, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

 Done — IVORK _Discuss 00:56, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

SYNTH and other bad edits

To editor Cachedio: "However, by this point the Palestinian Islamic Jihad had carried out a fatal terrorist attack in Jerusalem and Israel had only implemented stage 1 of the further redeployment (F.R.D.), meaning that it had withdrawn from 2% of Area C instead of the full 13%." The four sources, in order, are (1) a source for the bombing that doesn't mention the Wye River Memorandum or even the Oslo Accords. (2) A source that the Wikipedia community has judged unreliable (and even if they hadn't, the fact that the list comes from the Israeli government rules it out). Besides that, I can't find this bombing on that page, where is it? (3) A dead link to an organization with no particular expertise in the subject (and the original version only had half a sentence on the topic and no mention of bombings), (4) An article by Joel Beinin that doesn't mention the bombing.

You aren't allowed to include unreliable sources whether or not you can find confirmation in another source. Your worst error, though, is to manufacture a relationship between two things without a reliable source that explains the relationship. This is what WP:SYNTH forbids absolutely. It would be just as easy to reword it to imply that the bombing was a reaction to Israel violating the agreement, but we aren't allowed to do that either. Of these four sources, only (4) passes muster. Your edit cannot stand. Zero^talk 04:04, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

To editor Cachedio: The 1999 edition of "Righteous Victims" has nothing relevant on pages 653–654, while the 2001 edition only has something similar about the Sharm ash Sheikh agreement one year later on those pages. I'll give you a short time to explain what I'm missing since otherwise I'll revert you again. Zero^talk 13:13, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok, it's gone again. One more thing, the Islamic Jihad was not a party to the Wye River agreement so a reliable source would be needed to explicitly connect them to it. Zero^talk 13:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)