Talk:Wynyard railway station, Sydney

Direct access where?

Isn't there direct access between 3/4 and 5/6? --Alexxx1 10:07, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

• No - unlike Town Hall, where the configuration is concourse on top, platform underneath, second level of platform underneath that, the configuration at Wynyard actually has 3/4 and 5/6 on different sides of the station. 1/2 and 3/4 are actually next to each other - if you demolished one of the walls you would be able to see the other platforms - in fact I believe that they were actually visible from the train platforms at one stage. 1/2 is directly above 5/6. (JROBBO 12:10, 20 December 2005 (UTC))

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Requested move 22 August 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. No clear consensus that the Sydney station is the primary topic, so we stick with the status quo of having a dab page at the base location. It would have been neater if people had waited for the RM to conclude before restoring the dab or asked an admin to properly restore the history if they really couldn't stand waiting another week, but that's by the by now and I will perform a histmerge. Jenks24 (talk) 07:15, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

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Wynyard railway station, Sydney → Wynyard railway station – Clear primary topic. Other two examples provided are disused, one doesn't have an article yet. – Mqst north (talk) 05:38, 22 August 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 14:03, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:48, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

• @Mqst north and Lamberhurst: Queried by User:Lamberhurst. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:48, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

It is difficult to establish the primary topic using 'what links here' or page views, because the Canadian station has recently moved URL. Google.com (not .au) results show Wynyard in Sydney filling the first page of results, but this may still be taking my (Australian) location into account. However, Wynyard is the third-most heavily-used station in Sydney, a city of 4.8 million, hosting 9.6 million passenger journeys in 2014 (Bureau of Transport Statistics (March 2015). "Summary of train journeys (official patronage figures)".). Wynyard Station in Canada is no longer in use (itself a relevant criterion – the Canadian station is not so much a station as a historic building). It previously served a town that today has a population of 1,700 – therefore it is unlikely that the Canadian Wynyard ever saw more than a small fraction of the patronage of its Australian namesake. Mqst north (talk) 04:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose, prior to the recent page moves, Wynyard railway station was a disambiguation page for three stations of that name which exist in the UK, the US and Australia. This page was deleted without discussion to make way for the redirect to the Sydney Wynyard station on the basis that it was the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. However, this requires that the article is more likely to be associated with the title than other similarly-named articles, either because of usage and/or long-term significance. This is not the case with the Wynyard station in Sydney, a suburban station opened in the 1930s without any particular history or renown attached to it. A Google books search reveals entries for the Sydney station and the UK one on the Castle Eden Railway. There is no primary topic here and the previous status quo should be reestablished, i.e. a disambig page for the different Wynyard stations. Lamberhurst (talk) 13:30, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

• Comment Let's try to keep the discussion objective, and leave to one side your personal definitions of "suburban", "history" and "renown". The first 50 results for a search on Google.co.uk using &pws=0 in the URL for "wynyard railway station" are for the Sydney station. #51 is for the defunct Saskatchewan station, as is #54. At #64 is a reference to a long-closed station in Tasmania, which also lacks a Wikipedia article. Wynyard in the UK makes its first appearance at #78 – a passing reference in a page about World War II. It is clear that the one operating station among the four is going to be the one of most interest to readers. I'm guessing UK or Canadian users would get similar results? Mqst north (talk) 17:54, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose Wynyard railway station should be reinstated as a disambiguation page. Each is the most prominent in its own country, put as Wiki is a global project then none qualifies as the primary topic. Pointtwo (talk) 20:35, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose To keep this really objective, to use the words of another contributor, Wynyard station in Sydney has no more right than any other to be defined as the primary station.

• Comment Again, can we try to keep this objective (and remember to sign our posts with ~~~~, User:Fleet Lists)? Other than your personal preferences, are there any actual reasons the Sydney station fails WP:PRIMARYTOPIC? Mqst north (talk) 02:41, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

• Support: Wynyard station in Sydney is a major city station, the others never were significant stations and are now closed.--Grahame (talk) 13:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Outside Sydney, this station has no significance. It is not a tourist attraction, a reference point, or anything like that. The naming appears derivative of Wynyard Park, Sydney. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:01, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

This is an absurd comment, it is in the middle of a major city and close to numerous tourist destinations.--Grahame (talk) 06:02, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

It is underground and is a transport interchange. Being close to something interesting doesn't make it interesting. Maybe it *is* interesting, I found some reviews: http://www.yelp.com.au/biz/wynyard-station-sydney However, I am still pretty sure that no visitor writes home postcards about it. Even people (non-locals) who use it wouldn't remember it unless reminded of the city it is in. It is no Grand Central Terminal or Gare du Nord. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:48, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose. The city is extremely important information for the title of transport utilities, if the context of the city is not already established, as it is not for an article title. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:33, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

• Comment Not sure that's relevant. The city's name (and other contextual information) is provided in the article itself, and the old Wynyard railway station, Sydney link will remain active. Mqst north (talk) 06:56, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

• Note. Giving this another week, but if it ends not moved or no consensus that deleted history at Wynyard railway station will need to be undeleted. Jenks24 (talk) 14:03, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

• Why? What are you talking about? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:48, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

• Wynyard railway station used to be a disambiguation page pointing to the three stations which bear this name. It was deleted by an admin at 09:08, 22 August 2015, with the (questionable) justification "redundant disambiguation page, only two entries". This needs to be undeleted if consensus for the page move is not established. Lamberhurst (talk) 07:58, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

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