Talk:X̱wemelch'stn

Created Article

After the wonderful idea from User:Skookum1, I've created the article for the village I am from. I'll add more once I can completely understand how the citation thing works. Thanks OldManRivers 10:43, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Looking at it just now (and I have to go to bed, but before I'm gone...) there's two things that struck my eye

• one is that the Capilano Indian Reserve article is the place for the artifact of the IR, ie. also in its traditional-landscape sense (which more should be in this article, than that one), and its pre-Contact history, but stuff like Capt. Vancouver's description of it, or those from later times; any archaeological work; finally the legislation and the survey and surveyor and all that; the details of the object of the reserve, both as a legal fiction (like a muni or a province, really) and a piece of terrain; as well as epitomizing a parochialist political history; I guess I'm kind of suggesting a separation or the two mindsets on each page, though interlinked. The parallel, in some ways, is to a government-agency article; more dry information, relatively speaking, than the cultural-historical material on this page, vs hte IR page; same with Mosquito Cr or Staw7mes (sp>) IR etc. when it's done; the IR article is for the artifact of the IR, its data, file-catalogue kinda stuff. The point of these Indian Act creations is there's a lot of technicalities about their creations, and negotiations and histories concerning them, that should or at least could all be accounted for here. Skookum1 10:55, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

This would be good. I'm not sure how much information I have about the IR factoid stuff, but I'll dig up what I can. Information about leases, park royal, ambleside, future plans, etc. A smaller map of the reserve if possible. OldManRivers 08:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

• two; this page should/could have a history of the traditional "chiefs" and clans, etc; as Nisga'a and Tsimshian etc do; the cultural history and "traditional-politics history", and more articles on people from the reserve, and even writers who've written about the place who aren't Squamish; about the community and the culture; the other one is for the abstract government and the paperwork and the data/details; if they can be separated, in some ways, but this is the whole thing with there being two sides to story; both have to be told, as a matter of documentation/encyclopedic ocntent... ;-).Skookum1 10:55, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

For cultural history, there are some histories concering the chiefs. Chief Lawa, and others before him. Interesting to note that although Capilano is named after Joe Capilano, which comes from Kayapalanexw, the village was not the place Joe Capilano's "cheiftainship stemmed from. Well, kind of. Joe Capilano was a chief, but it was given to him for his trip to England to see the king. He figured they wouldn't speak to someone unless they had some sort of rank to their standards, and figured "Chief" was something of that rather. He was supposed to give the chieftainship back, but never did. But, the history of the chieftainship system is rather interesting to note that it originated from the Catholic Church. Long story, but I believe I mentioned it on Squamish Nation.OldManRivers 08:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

• there was something else, but I gotta eat and hit the sack....g'nite.....Skookum1 10:55, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm hoping to add more information. What sub-titles do you think would be good for here. Backround. History. Developments and culture? All of this could be then broken down to social, political, economic? Just a clearer way to look at this article. Along with this, more information will be added to the Sḵwxwú7mesh page. And I'll break that down into more sub-titles too. OldManRivers 08:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Capilano Indian Reserve - sep article?

There was a link on the Musqueam Indian Band page to Capilano Reserve, which I linked to this article; but it occurred to me that the Capilano Reserve is one of those instances weere a separate article on the IR as a land-holding with its own history might be worth creating, i.e. because of Park Royal and the other business/resdiential ventures located on it.....obviously there's a difference between the traditional village and the Indian Act-designated land holding and the commercial history associated with it....Skookum1 (talk) 15:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Your probably right, but I wonder if there is enough citable information to seperate the two? Capilano Indian Reserve would probably be a small article, but I guess that's alright. OldManRivers (talk) 00:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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