Talk:Xiang Chinese

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How does one pronounce the name of the language? Some IPA would be nice.

xiangtan dialect

the /x/ in chinese is similar to our /sh/, /a/ like in /father/. think of /xiang/ as something sounding like /*shyang/.

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin for more information on how to pronounce romanized chinese.

i've written a short guide, in progress, on the xiangtan dialect. right now i've just got some of the changes from mandarin to xiangtan dialect, though i shall follow this up shortly with basic phrases.

http://www.williamfromtexas.com/xiangtanhua.html

it's just an interesting project for me, nothing official or academic (yet). if you have any suggestions leave 'em here.

william

19:25, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

And what is Xiang pronounciation of the word "Xiang", that is its autonym? --Koryakov Yuri (talk) 14:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Xiang template

If you are a native speaker of Xiang, then you can use this template:

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Hebei

Is this a mistake? Hebei doesn't border Hunan. Maybe it's Hubei. --2.245.97.142 (talk) 05:55, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes, well spotted. Kanguole 12:46, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

The Xiangnan

I live in Chaling, a Xiangnan city before when I'm 5.(Now I'm in Changsha) This is my suggest.

The Xiangnan maybe kinship may be followed up with Guangdong? This sheet for intuitive comparison.

	Of	Sleep	Speak
Putong	的de	睡觉shu jiào	讲jiǎng
Xiang	的dī	睡觉xüèi jào	讲gāng
Yue	嘅ge3	瞓(困)觉 fan3(kwan3) gok3	讲gong2
Xiangnan	的ge	困觉 kuèn gào	讲gǒng

— Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterBarofsky (talk • contribs) 08:21, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Possible origin of early Xiang Chinese

The earliest form of Xiang Chinese was spoken in the Southern part of the state of Chu. The population lived in this part is said to be predominantly Tai-Kadai. In the article "Chu (state)" [1], I added a new section discussing about the evidence of a Tai-Kadai existence in the Southern Chu from sinologist Wolfgang Behr, based on rediscovered epigraphic materials. So, this information might also be added to this article. Gustmeister (talk) 22:55, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Behr seems to make no mention of Xiang. Kanguole 00:17, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

@Kanguole:Right. But if Xiang Chinese descends from the language spoken by the early population of the Southern Chu, then it might be possible that this Chinese dialect/language might be related to an early form of Tai-Kadai. I do not know whether or not there are studies about non-Han substrata in Xia Chinese and how their results might conclude ? Gustmeister (talk) 01:17, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

I don't think anyone would say Xiang is descended from a Chu language; it's usually treated as derived from Middle Chinese. But unless someone produces such studies, there is nothing to say here. Kanguole 09:19, 30 March 2018 (UTC)