Talk:Yalkharoy

Requested move 9 May 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. Per lack of participation. WP:NPASR. (closed by non-admin page mover) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 17:32, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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Yalkharoy → Yalkhoroy – Misspelled the name and now the name of article is Yalkharoy instead of Yalkhoroy. WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 18:16, 9 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 20:41, 16 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 23:13, 23 May 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 14:56, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Comment: I see that both versions are in use, and also Yalkhara.[1] This article has already been renamed twice. Please demonstrate the commonly used name in English-language sources, or give other evidence of the best title, before moving again.  —Michael Z. 14:53, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Yalkhoroy is the most commonly used name in sources (atleast in the ones that pop up in when you search in Google Books) for the aul and is used in the corresponding articles in other wikipedias like the Russian Wikipedia. WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 15:27, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

It’s common to demonstrate the relative frequency in reliable sources with comparative searches in Google Books, and sometimes in Google Scholar. Ngram is better, but I see this place is so rarely mentioned that it doesn’t appear in any form.[2]  —Michael Z. 02:03, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to demonstrate that here, but you can quickly search Yalkhoroy and Yalkharoy in Google Books and you will see that Yalkhoroy is most commonly mentioned name. You also mentioned that Yalkhara is also used, but that's actually the Chechen name for the village, not Russian. Yalkhara is not mentioned at all in sources, well atleast nothing pops up in Google Books. WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 13:33, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Ingush translation

Assalamu alaikum wa rahmattulahi wa barakatuh @Goddard2000 I thought I should first discuss this matter which might turn into a dispute. You have no issue if I add Ingush translation into the efn note? I want to add it because Yalkhoroy teip has both Chechen and Ingush representatives, in other words, there's also Ingush descendants from this ancestral village (for example, an Ingush scientist Marem Yalkharoeva). I think this is notible enough to add an Ingush translation, don't you think? WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 15:22, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Waaleykum Salam, yeah i have no problem with this, Orstkhoy ancestral teip villages can have both Chechen and Ingush translations in my opinion. Goddard2000 (talk) 15:39, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

I was wondering, what about Bamut, does this same rule apply to it? It's known that Ghoandaloy founded the the village, also for some time the village had an Ingush majority population. WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 15:46, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

I saw that Takhirgeran had a problem with it a while ago, personally i don't mind it but i do think that if Ingush translations are applied to Orstkhoy villages (not only ancestral teip villages) that are in modern day Chechnya then it makes sense to add Chechen translations to lowland Orstkhoy villages who also at times belonged to the Chechen okrug like for example Chemulga, Arsshti etc. I personally am not much invested in the translations part of Wikipedia so i'm not planning on going through every Orstkhoy village in Ingushetia and add Chechen translations, but i think this rule should be established among Chechen and Ingush Wikipedia editors. Goddard2000 (talk) 16:25, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Maybe Chemulga was part of Chechen Autonomous Oblast for some period, but Arshty? When was it part of Chechen Oblast? Could you cite RS for both claims please? WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 16:57, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

I thought it was, i knew Sunzhensky region was merged into Chechen autonomous Oblast in 1930's which included Orstkhoy towns and villages like Karabulak in the north, i assumed Arshty and Chemulga was part of it like it's part of Sunzhensky region (Ingushetia) today. I looked it up and apparently Arshty was part of Ingush autonomous Oblast so my bad. Either way you can discuss this with Takhirgeran since he was opposed to your Bamut edit, maybe you two can come to an understanding. Goddard2000 (talk) 17:34, 13 August 2023 (UTC)