Talk:Yalta

I came looking for information on the Yalta Accords, which are mentioned in part of the Cold War but not on this page. Accordingly (pardon the pun) found some info elsewhere: here's one page. [1]

Perhaps could be rewritten and incorporated by someone knowing more about the period than I do? --Suitov, hoping nobody will notice he almost called them the "Honda Accords" by mistake —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Suitov (talk • contribs).

Demographics

According to the 2001 Ukrainian Census, Russians make up 65% not 48% of the population of Yalta.--SergeiXXX (talk) 22:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Trolleybus

This page says that the line Yalta - Simferopol is 90 km long and the longest in Europe, but the page "Trolleybus" says, that the line is 84 km but the longest in the world. ? 94.103.219.86 (talk) 13:56, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

The colours used on the weather box

You may have noticed that two editors have been changing the colours on the weather boxes for Ukrainian cities for the past two months. There is a discussion of what colours they should be at Talk:Lviv#The colours used on the weather box. Please contribute, even if only to say that you don't care, but you just wish they would stop changing it.--Toddy1 (talk) 14:33, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Highly POV word "occupied"

"Occupied" is a highly POV word. Crimea is a disputed region and that is what it should be regarded as for NPOV reasons. "Controlled" is NPOV and should be kept that way. Ukraine may consider Crimea an occupied region, but that is not what it is most commonly referred to and definitely not what it is referred to on Wikipedia for NPOV reasons. --Leftcry (talk) 22:01, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

I did a Google search and came up with this recent article from the Telegraph: US slaps trade ban on Crimea over Russia 'occupation'. The Telegraph always places "occupation" in quotes, which suggest that reliable sources consider this term to be contentious when applied to Crimea. My impression is that Western media used the term "occupation" in March, but gradually stopped doing so after Crimea and Sevastopol were formally joined to Russia. This usage is consistent with WP's own article on military occupation. – Herzen (talk) 22:20, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Exactly, the term "occupation" refers to military presence in territories NOT under the formal sovereignty of that entity, however Russia effectively administrates Crimea and refers to it as a part of its sovereignty. --Leftcry (talk) 22:26, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps the best thing to do would be to delete the following uncited words from the article:

"a territory internationally recognized as part of Ukraine as the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, but de facto controlled by Russia."

-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:23, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it would get rid of the word that some object to AND remove the obnoxious "territory marking".Volunteer Marek (talk) 08:36, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

I would find that to be a satisfactory solution. I believe that the Crimean peninsula has two regional administrative units which Russia annexed last spring: Crimea and Sevastopol. Yalta is part of Crimea. Thus discussion of who Crimea is recognized by is out of place in this article, since the article is about the resort town called Yalta, not the current legal status of Crimea. This seems to be especially the case since the whole annexation business is not discussed in the rest of the article, as opposed to in the lead. – Herzen (talk) 08:45, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

 Done – Herzen (talk) 15:27, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

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Hello Toddy: I disagree with your reversions of my 3 minor stylistic revisions, but it's really not worth an argument. If you feel like it, and if you know someone with good command of English, show them the two versions and ask a simple question: Which one is better? But it's really not worth it, and you are right that the earlier versions are . . . almost acceptable. Best, Brachney (talk) 00:02, 2 November 2017 (UTC)Brachney

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Volunteering to resolve issues

I saw the ANI report and came to see what happened here, as a neutral user i volunteered to give a third opinion or to meditate between you to resolve the content issue. Can you briefly inform me on the matter? - Kevo327 (talk) 23:17, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Seryo93 and Vlixes: pinging involved users. - Kevo327 (talk) 23:23, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Russian propaganda. --Vlixes (talk) 00:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vlixes: Can you provide a more objective and factual answer? I can't provide a third opinion if you don't tell me what the exact issue is. - Kevo327 (talk) 07:17, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

A more informative reply would be that " user X is adding/removing/changing Y and I disagree because of Z" - Kevo327 (talk)

There is no need to resolve issues between a long-term constructive user and a clearly disruptive user with 16 contributions in total. I will give a warning now.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:41, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Since the user continued edit-warring, and does not seem to have useful contribution in the last couple of years, I have blocked them indef. I am not watching this page, I hope the conflict has been resolved.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ymblanter: guess I had too much hope for a peaceful resolution, I should have looked into the other user's contributions. thank you for sorting things out. - Kevo327 (talk) 11:40, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Sure, thanks for offering your help and I hope we will be able to use it on other occasions.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Country

I just overwrote my previous entry, which existed for a half hour, which complained that this article fails to state what country the subject of the article is in.

Only after it went live did I happen to notice that they are named in the inset.

You must state the fact in the main text, at the very beginning of the article.

Jimlue (talk) 05:42, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

More than a year ago someone already tried to fix this problem, but some users are hell bent on edit warring basic information out of the lede. Purposefully omitting what country this town is part of is just Russian nationalist irredentist POV. Volunteer Marek 07:46, 6 September 2022 (UTC)