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The name of the party
editThe right spelling of the name of the party according to Hebrew grammar
is "Yamina", not "Yemina". See the party website address, and see here - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%9F#Hebrew — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuykuyl (talk • contribs) 14:27, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- The right spelling of the Hebrew word that means "to the right" is "Yamina", but leaders of the party are calling their party "Yemina". Maybe this is because they are ignorant and maybe this is because they want to demonstrate that obeying the laws of grammar (like other laws) is not for the strong right. However, we must respect the way that the leaders of the party are calling their party. דוד שי (talk) 03:13, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- @דוד שי: are you sure that this is the name they have chosen in English, though? Because the same source we are using in the article to confirm "Yemina" has also used the spelling "Yamina" (less than 24 hours ago). So colour me confused. El_C 03:23, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- I don't know how they write their name in English, I just hear them speaking. However, you can see the spelling "Yemina" in Israeli newspapers, here, here and here. דוד שי (talk) 03:51, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- @דוד שי: I also see "Yamina" here, here and here. So, I'm not sure we have a definitive answer yet. El_C 04:02, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- P.S. Also, note that the Hebrew Wikipedia is using יָמִינָה. El_C 04:04, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- I don't know how they write their name in English, I just hear them speaking. However, you can see the spelling "Yemina" in Israeli newspapers, here, here and here. דוד שי (talk) 03:51, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- @דוד שי: are you sure that this is the name they have chosen in English, though? Because the same source we are using in the article to confirm "Yemina" has also used the spelling "Yamina" (less than 24 hours ago). So colour me confused. El_C 03:23, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- They chose to write at their website address (http://insite-media.biz/yamina/01/) "Yamina". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuykuyl (talk • contribs) 05:04, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Is insite-media.biz their website? Seems more like a site of a PR company. דוד שי (talk) 06:07, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- דוד, אני לא מבין למה אתה מתעקש להנציח טעות בעברית. סמוטריץ' עצמו הסב את תשומת לבם של הנוכחים בעצרת הבחירות להגייה הנכונה — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuykuyl (talk • contribs) 06:39, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Kuykuyl: This is the English Wikipedia, so please write in English. Anyway, do you have a source for that claim about Smotrich? El_C 06:46, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- See in minute 42. https://www.facebook.com/ayelet.benshaul.shaked/videos/vb.237683826350051/482745705633186/?type=2&theater — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuykuyl (talk • contribs) 07:09, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, confirmed. Unless there are further objections, I will be moving the page to the correct spelling. Not sure how the Yemina spelling came about, but it does, indeed, appear to be in error. El_C 07:14, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Correct. I was contacted by a party official, who asked the named to be corrected to "Yamina". Atbannett (talk) 09:36, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, Atbannett. And also thanks again to everyone else, for taking the time to settle this in a substantive manner. El_C 18:32, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Correct. I was contacted by a party official, who asked the named to be corrected to "Yamina". Atbannett (talk) 09:36, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, confirmed. Unless there are further objections, I will be moving the page to the correct spelling. Not sure how the Yemina spelling came about, but it does, indeed, appear to be in error. El_C 07:14, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- See in minute 42. https://www.facebook.com/ayelet.benshaul.shaked/videos/vb.237683826350051/482745705633186/?type=2&theater — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuykuyl (talk • contribs) 07:09, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Kuykuyl: This is the English Wikipedia, so please write in English. Anyway, do you have a source for that claim about Smotrich? El_C 06:46, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- דוד, אני לא מבין למה אתה מתעקש להנציח טעות בעברית. סמוטריץ' עצמו הסב את תשומת לבם של הנוכחים בעצרת הבחירות להגייה הנכונה — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuykuyl (talk • contribs) 06:39, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Is insite-media.biz their website? Seems more like a site of a PR company. דוד שי (talk) 06:07, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- They chose to write at their website address (http://insite-media.biz/yamina/01/) "Yamina". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuykuyl (talk • contribs) 05:04, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
It's Yemina not Yamina. Sokuya (talk) 15:37, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Yamina seats held
editYamina hasn't run for any elections, so they don't hold any seats. David O. Johnson (talk) 00:50, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
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Requested move 11 October 2020
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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) —Nnadigoodluck███ 15:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Yamina (political alliance) → Yamina – A disambiguator is not needed, as "Yamina" has already redirected here from some months. It was previously a disambiguation page, but changed to a redirect (apparently without opposition) because all other senses were partial title matches of people with the given name, Yamina. BD2412 T 22:44, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Support and also move the current Yamina to Yamina (name), restore it, and tag it as {{given name}} instead of {{disambiguation}}. The political alliance looks like the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC [1], but that's no reason to delete a perfectly valid name WP:SETINDEX. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 00:40, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- I have no objection to this addition. BD2412 T 00:50, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Yamina already directs here and is the primary topic. Number 57 11:27, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 15:06, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
- The name page has now been restored to Yamina (name) per the discussion as well. -2pou (talk) 17:57, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Political position
editOn it's political position, I would argue that Yamina should continue to be classified as "right-wing" instead of "right wing to far-right." The politics of the Yamina (fiscally and foreign policy at least) seem to be closer to that of Likud and New Hope (parties classified as "center-right to right wing"), rather than extremist parties such as Otzma Yehudit, Noam and RZP, and the New Right party was explicitly founded in 2018 to attract voters who thought the hardline factions of the Jewish Home were too off-putting. On one of the citations, it also calls Bennett "right-wing."
--2A00:23C7:C081:8000:3492:44A3:2F5A:A3B1 (talk) 19:34, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, the party's far-right members such as Smotrich have left the party and formed the Religious Zionist party. The party is considered as a rightwing one in Israel, not far-right... The party is joining a coalition with leftwing parties such as Meretz, Labor and even the Islamist party Ra'am. I'd suggest changing the party to be rightwing. We all know when news outlets talk about Israel they can be very biased, there are also many sources who call Likud Far-right, it doesn't mean it is one. The party is rightwing and I'd strongly suggest to remove the far-right part given the liberalization of the party and the coalition Yamina has entered to. --Arjona123 (talk) 17:27, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Page protection?
editShould we ask for page protection on this article? There's been pretty frequent vandalism in the past few days. David O. Johnson (talk) 14:01, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- I've contacted an admin, pretty sure this page will be protected. --Vacant0 (talk) 14:02, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Great. It's in place now. David O. Johnson (talk) 14:53, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Position
editAccording to the prevailing p 2A0D:6FC7:212:7F94:76B5:531:1E0E:C90D (talk) 22:13, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
PLEASE ADD (ITALICS JUST FOR CLARITY)
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"Coalition whip Idit Silman of the Yamina party resigned from the government on Wednesday, 6 April 2022" as per <ref>https://worldisraelnews.com/closer-to-new-elections-yamina-lawmaker-quits-government-coalition-loses-majority/?fbclid=IwAR27TLZqZxIxsVqyRW9EZccQTMrSR3DewL7-mUqgRNbgmxEVyCL9iHj-HlU</ref>
Thanks, 65.88.88.56 (talk) 17:45, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —Sirdog (talk) 02:44, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 May 2022
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77.124.41.76 (talk) 20:21, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Yamina is not a far-right party.
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:38, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Change request
editIn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamina_(political_alliance)#Platform shouldn't "Jewish identity" be a numbered list item? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7C:A87D:ED00:98:B190:5215:6787 (talk) 11:19, 16 July 2023 (UTC)