Talk:Yampa (yacht)

Emperor's Cup

That Wikipedia article is not about sailing. There was an Emperor's Cup which featured German yachts racing against the world's best. See here. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:07, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

You will have to make up a disambiguation page first (which will be the red link at first), then an article on that particular Emperor's Cup IF you want to link it. I recommend to just leave it unlinked = a lot less work!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:39, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Exists?

The tense of the article is written as if the yacht still exists, yet there is nothing in the article to suggest it's existence past 1902. I think evidence should be provided of it's existence and continued history, or the tenses should be changed and information post 1902 and eventual demise added. Canterbury Tail talk 16:42, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

I know it existed up to 2013 (Iduna name), but can not find information on its late history.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:50, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

How do we know that's the same boat? Comparing the photos there are practically no similarities. The hawse is much lower on the Iduna than on the Yampa photo. The bow is a different shape and none of the portholes match up. I think we're going to need some references here. Canterbury Tail talk 19:33, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Actually it's not the same boat. I found the webpage for the Iduna, and it was laid down in 1939. [1] so it can't be the same boat at all. Same name, different boat. Canterbury Tail talk 19:34, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Originally named Tampa?

The reference to a clipping from The Brooklyn Daily Eagle of Sunday, 18 December 1887, describes a boat name "Tampa", not "Yampa". Is this about the same craft, or a different one? — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)^{T @} 20:17, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

@Hydrargyrum: This is a misspelling by the staff writer of The Brooklyn Daily Eagle as this book reference shows the the Yampa was first owned by Chester W. Chapin. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:17, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Sharp eyes and good point. That T has to be a mistake made by the Brooklyn Daily Eagle in 1887 (probably by the type-setter), the schooner that they were referring to is actually the Yampa, one and the same (see Library of Congress citation, etc. Yampa is a river/area in Colorado (no idea why the boat was named the Yampa). The Daily Eagle's article aligns with known facts about the Yampa":

• built for Chester W. Chapin
• designed by A. Cary Smith
• built in Wilmington, Delaware
• a steel schooner.

There is also a NY Times article with an almost-exactly the same title as the Daily Eagle - "The New Yacht Yampa - Putting the finishing touches to Mr. Chapin's Steel Schooner" (as opposed to "The Yacht Tampa : Mr. Chapin's Steel Schooner Receiving the Finishing Touches". This clip in its entirety is found in the archives of the Southwest Harbor Public Library in Maine and exhibits many points of commonality between the Daily Eagle blurb and the Times article.

So, anyway, I would say that no, there was never a steel schooner named the Tampa built for Chester W. Chapin, designed by A. Cary Smith (and subsequently owned by Kaiser Wilhelm). Shearonink (talk) 21:30, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

This is that NY Times article and even the OCR text at the bottom shows Yampa with a "Y". --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:48, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Eddie891 (talk · contribs) 21:01, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I'll take this one on soon Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:01, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

comments

• Suggest adding years to the lede so the reader has some sense of time.

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:34, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• " until 1891" suggest adding what changed in 1891

 Done - after much research I could not find what changed then (e.g. another yacht took its place). --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:08, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• lengths need {{convert}} in the article body

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:07, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• "She participated in various events related to the America's Cup" maybe add what the cup was for readers who don't know (i.e. what types of events might she have participated in?)

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:08, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• Standardize between "The Yampa" and "Yampa"

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:23, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• You link Wilhelm but not Chapin in the infobox?

 Done - linked Chapin. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:35, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• "sea-kindliness" maybe put in quotes rather than italics, but I'm not sure

 Done - "sea-kindliness" in quotes. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:44, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• "She made many ocean cruises for several years with no significant accidents, and sailors referred to this as sea-kindliness" yet you only have one year chronologically where this sentence is?

 Done copy edit accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:53, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• "calling at" -> "stopping at"?

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:57, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• "Cuthbert S. Thompson" surely you can mention who he is a bit?

 Done = cousin. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:11, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• "towed to Kiel, Germany by way of the Kiel Canal" suggest "towed to through the Kiel Canal to Kiel, Germany" but I'm fine either way

 Done - kept original wording.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• " German Emperor's" perhaps link Emperor of Germany, who is the emperor?

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:37, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• " The emperor was very much attracted to the schooner and wished to own it" suggest rephrase along the lines of "The emperor liked the schooner and sought to purchase it" but again that's a minor preference issue, and could go either way

 Done - changed wording.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:42, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• "He immediately took steps to acquire her for himself" clarify who 'he' is

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:52, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• "The German Royal family enjoyed many cruises" -> "The German Royal family had [or took] many cruises" I'd suggest leaving the reader to decide whether they enjoyed them all

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:55, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• "international Emperor’s Cup regatta" you should link regatta before this

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:57, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• "Meteor III was built in New York harbor in 1902" I thought she was constructed in Germany?

 Done - news clip reference says at the beginning At Shooters Island, New York harbor... At the end of news clip article it says: ... She was designed and built there.... In Meteor III it says ...built by Townsend-Downey Shipbuilding Company at Shooters Island in New York City... referenced by news clip from Lincoln Journal Star. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:11, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• I'm curious how this is in the scope of MILHIST?

 Done - removed. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:17, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• Do we know the fate of the ship?

 Done - added. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:38, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• A fine article, some minor points here, all open for discussion, I'll revisit tomorrow. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 01:44, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Eddie891: I have addresses all issues. Can you take another look at it now. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:38, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Doug Coldwell, That's it from me then. Much better, and I'm now happy to promote. A little on the short side, but I think it's reasonably comprehensive and well written and well referenced and illustrated. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 19:09, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

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