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Latest comment: 4 years ago7 comments2 people in discussion
@DGG: can you point out where the promotional tone is hiding in this draft? My guess is phrases like, "had more than 700,000 participating drivers in 18 countries by 2019", "was installed by 100,000 users in Israel in the first two weeks following its local launch", "with plans to expand to other parts of the country" set off alarms because these are surely things that marketing people would what us to hear but they also appear to be verifiable facts. I'm not sure how to edit this to make it sound more neutral. ~Kvng (talk) 22:12, 20 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
You missed "Yango representataives met with the President of Ghana Nana Akufo-Addo during the inaugural Russia-Africa Summit in October 2019"
Further, the statistics quoted seem to be from trade publications, in which round numbers such as this are not reliable. .
The tone can probably be helped by combining into longer paragraphs.
If you want to approve it, you of course can do so. I'm not likely to take anything you approved to afd, when there is so much worse junk to be dealt with. After all, the concept of promotionalism is inherently fuzzy, because any article about almost anything new is to some degree promotional . I'd first consider if there's a possible merge with other branches of the principal firm. DGG ( talk ) 23:02, 20 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
As I've learned, AfD is unpredictable. It gets thing right maybe 80% of the time, wrong but arguable or borderline 15%, and downright idiotic, about 5%. Sometimes when I'm certain I have a good argument, for either keep or delete or a compromise, it still doesn't work rationally.. I think everyone who knows it would more or less agree with my estimate, tho the articles they'd pick to illustrate it are different. The only thing I can say for certain is that he better the article, the better the chances. Better - more substantial, with no PR references or blogs for people to attack, and at least two well known reliable national newspapers or magazines in English. Better , with no claims for anything unusual, but evidence for something important. And "better" in avoiding all of the WP prevalent prejudices. Unfortunately, commercial organizations are one of them, but not to the extent of making things impossible. My recommendation to rescue a weak article with marginally good sourcing that cannot be improved is usually the same: merge. If you merge , do it yourself. A merge done as a result of an AfD close usually merges very little content. Unfortunately, in this case, there's nowhere practical to merge to except the entire giant company. DGG ( talk ) 01:54, 22 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
DGG, reading between the lines here, it seems that you don't want to assess the likelihood of deletion here. I suggest you may want to skip reviewing articles where that's the case. I think it clearly has a better than even of surviving so I guess it's on me to accept it. ~Kvng (talk) 14:34, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I'm not an oracle. But in this case. I had made up my mind last night to accept it .My reason is I looked t the whole complex of articls on the conglomerate, and I see no clear way of dealing with them, so one more won't do any harm. (This , incidentally, is why I do not like to be encouraged to give quick answers--I keep current problems in my mind, and I often reconsider my views DGG ( talk ) 17:07, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
So , since you had accepted it, I made some of my usual copyediting changes for such articles. The key things I do is reduce the use of the firm name, try to shorten the wording, and remove sentences or phrases focussed on giving names of government dignitaries. .It's sort of an automatic routine by now. I learned this from other reviewers doing something similar when a different reviewer accepts something they had worked on, especially if they has previosuly rejected it, to show that they've seen it. DGG ( talk ) 17:15, 23 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion
There is a typographical error. It says Israel in the article, and there is no country with that name!!. The real name of the country is Palestine🇵🇸✅ Nourraann (talk) 08:35, 3 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 7 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Sanjilo Empreendimentos su LDA is an Angolan company looking forward to partnering with Yango to promote and manage the service in Angola
We will appreciate to discuss further co-operation.
Best regards
Adolfo Constantino Sanjilo@ Sanjilo Empreendimentos su LDA A (talk) 05:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)Reply