Talk:Ye vs. the People/GA1
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Reviewer: Carbrera (talk · contribs) 19:07, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Hello. Expect a full review within the next couple of days, if not sooner. Carbrera (talk) 19:07, 20 December 2020 (UTC).
- @Carbrera: Any progress on this since it has been a couple of days by now? --K. Peake 21:30, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Kyle Peake – my apologies, Kyle. I will work on this so it's ready before tomorrow. Someone in my immediate family tested positive with COVID (from their job) so I haven't been on Wikipedia as much as I would like. But no worries, as it will not interfere with my GA review. Carbrera (talk) 18:47, 23 December 2020 (UTC).
- Carbrera That is a perfectly excusable reason to have not started the review even though it is very unfortunate to here from you on a personal basis – hope you do not get COVID-19 and my prayers go out to you as well as your family! I will be able to respond tomorrow despite working during the afternoon here in the UK. --K. Peake 18:49, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Kyle Peake – thanks for the well wishes and your understanding. Fortunately, I have tested negative. I did not know you were based in the UK but I'll remember that for the future! Happy holidays, Carbrera (talk) 18:51, 23 December 2020 (UTC).
- Carbrera That is a perfectly excusable reason to have not started the review even though it is very unfortunate to here from you on a personal basis – hope you do not get COVID-19 and my prayers go out to you as well as your family! I will be able to respond tomorrow despite working during the afternoon here in the UK. --K. Peake 18:49, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Kyle Peake – my apologies, Kyle. I will work on this so it's ready before tomorrow. Someone in my immediate family tested positive with COVID (from their job) so I haven't been on Wikipedia as much as I would like. But no worries, as it will not interfere with my GA review. Carbrera (talk) 18:47, 23 December 2020 (UTC).
Infobox
edit- In T.I.'s chronology box, the "Ye vs the People" is missing a "."
Lead
edit- As Lamont Dozier, Brian Holland, and Edward Holland Jr. are credited as songwriters, could this sentence ("The song was solely produced by West, who co-wrote it with T.I., Lamont Dozier, and Brian and Eddie Holland.") benefit from a mention that the latter three artists are credited because it samples their song "7 Rooms of Gloom"? Within the same sentence, perhaps?
- Done but I sourced it in the body first --K. Peake 07:56, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- "7 Rooms of Gloom" should be surrounded by quotation marks because it is a song
- It is not incorrect or anything, but something about "included" in "standing as the first time a track with T.I. included reached the chart since 2014." sounds a bit off to me. Maybe "featured" would be better replacement?
- Done but did not put featured since the other song had him as a lead artist; does this version look fine? --K. Peake 07:56, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Release and reception
edit- I'm afraid I do not recall where I heard about this policy, but I am fairly certain images with people facing in a specific direction should face the article and not the edge. I hope that makes sense (someone else worded it much better than I did). But if that's the case, the image should be moved to the right side. The first image used in the article meets this guideline, for example.
- Not done When there are multiple pieces of media, each one is supposed to be aligned to the different side as the preceding one --K. Peake 07:56, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- The infobox and lead mention that GOOD and Def Jam released the song but I don't see it anywhere in the prose; I would suggest adding that in this section
- Would it be worth mentioning that the song was available in both explicit and clean edits? I noticed the Apple Music link sourced here is for the clean edition, but an explicit one exists also (see).
- Not done this lacks notability because rap songs are commonly released in both explicit and clean versions; I could understand the case if the clean version had different lyrics instead of just censorship but that's not applicable here --K. Peake 07:56, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
References
edit- Are Popculture (ref #1), HotNewHipHop (ref #5), and The Hollywood Reporter (ref #8) generally considered reliable sources? I don't have much experience with hip-hop/R&B publications and I always thought THR was just a tabloid magazine.
- HotNewHipHop is considered a reliable source; it was just the article that was deleted due to it not having enough coverage from other sources. As for THR, that is considered reliable throughout Wikipedia and Popculture is not seen as unreliable, though you may be getting confused with the truly unreliable Popcrush. --K. Peake 07:56, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- The archive link on ref #10 doesn't seem to work for me all of the time. I cannot tell if it's a problem on my end or not. If you experience the same thing, I would suggest removing it and manually archiving it.
- It seems to work for me mostly but only loads the track listing temporarily; I think this is because you can't sign in to Apple Music on an archive --K. Peake 07:56, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Other
editRegarding your prose, I did not find anything else that I, personally, would improve upon. Other than my questions raised in the "References" section, I believe the article to be verifiable as well. Everything else checks out. I will place this review on hold until you address me back. Thank you. Carbrera (talk) 23:05, 23 December 2020 (UTC).
- Carbrera I have replied to everything, are you willing to pass now? --K. Peake 07:56, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- I just had the chance to revisit the article and have determined that this article now meets the GA criteria. Thank you for your patience. I will be passing this now. Carbrera (talk) 01:11, 25 December 2020 (UTC).