Talk:Yellow pages/Archives/2012

Australia

"In specific localised area of the Australian Capital Territory, it has been known to be used as toilet paper when there is none left in the house." I don't know what to say.--Jerryseinfeld 06:39, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• I think I'm going to be sick. Is that a fact? Did the guy who said that nasty thing about the toilet paper confirm this? If he/she did, how? "Did you use the yellow pages for toilet paper?" A government must be pretty bored to be approving a law like that. CDNguye1 9 July 2005 03:37 (UTC)

• • No, it's not really "known" to be used as toilet paper - hardly a "fact". Probably not true at all. I removed it.

• • What does the government have to do with it anyway? Nil Einne 08:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

• This is not so implausible: see Sears_Roebuck#Retail_stores for a similar historical adaptation. 204.186.117.238 12:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

External links

I removed all the national external links, being basically a link directory stroke spam magnet. As this article discusses 'Yellow Pages' in the context of a generic term applied to various telephone directories, links to various books that describe themselves as such do not fall under "articles about any organization, person, or other entity should link to their official site" (any more than Vacuum cleaner links to the websites of Hoover, Dyson, Henry etc). The global links are sufficient. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 09:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Another cleanup seemed due to remove gross link spamming in see also and external link sections as per Wikipedia:External links --AGoon 20:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

They're back... Can we reach a consensus about which external links (if any) actually belong on this page, so people will feel free to remove any others that appear? Certes (talk) 18:40, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Directory of directories

This article has basically become a list directories which doesn't seem to be all the encyclopaedic. At the very least there is no reason to have large US & UK yellow pages sections and an alphabetic list of everyone else. --AGoon 21:06, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Revisioning of the Yellow Page Keyword / Term.

Some of your comments are true, the key term has become an advertisement spot for YP's. So if one of you guys wants to do the job of revisioning the term I would gladly join your effort. As an actual Directory publisher I do have access to most data concerning the industry which, most probably, would extend this term and background information to a higher level! So contact me if you are interested in getting into this task! --Dr.A.M 08:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

In the UK the term "Yellow Pages" is a trademark belonging to Yell. As a result this is a formidable barrier to entry for anyone considering launching a local classified product / directory!!!

Helen

Spam in business directories

I was curious - are there any general descriptions of what online business directories try to reduce spam hits? I've reached the point where I feel like it's worthless to consult any online directory. You could look up somebody who sells flying willow trees in Yomamma, New Jersey and get a dozen listings that lead to generalized search pages for companies selling hardware in New York and Delaware. 204.186.117.238 11:56, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Title

Should we move this article to a more generic title like "Business directory" (which is already redirected here)? Reasons:

• The essential feature of the item we're describing is that it lists businesses in a directory. Being yellow is merely a convention and not even a universal one. Two of the three paper business directories I own have white pages, as do several online directories I've consulted from around the world. Pages aren't essential either, although the metaphor carries over neatly to the internet. A business directory implemented as a local voice search is neither yellow nor paged.
• Yellow Pages is a trade mark in the UK and elsewhere. IANAL but in those countries, that description can be applied only to the company which registered it. Rival business directories may deserve similar prominence in this article without the legal implications of associating them incorrectly with the name Yellow Pages.

Of course, Yellow Pages and its variants can redirect to here or to a disambiguation page incorporating the computing term. Certes (talk) 16:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

In general

This section isn't "general". It's US-specific with its references to Bell and CLECs. I don't want to make the section look silly by adding "In the USA " to the front of each paragraph, but it's something to bear in mind if anyone can add citations or generally clean it up. Certes (talk) 16:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure "Business owners ... should make certain that their information has been sent to the publisher" is best advice, especially if "many contracts have automatic renewal clauses". Certes (talk) 16:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Individual directories

How much information, if any, should Yellow Pages include on individual business directories, especially internet ones? Should this appear in the introduction or in the Internet Yellow Pages section? Is there a consensus on whether to include repeated mentions of founders or purchasers of such domains? Several IP edits, since reverted, have added a career summary of Bobby Kalili. All I can find in internet searches are identical press releases from 352 US companies or brands owned by a Bobby Khalili (with h) announcing the launch of a plethora of internet and telephone business directories. (I am ignoring the personal blogs loving and hating Mr Khalili.) If this series of companies is more notable than the thousands of competing directories around the world, let's discuss the reasons here. If not then let's leave them out of the article and not keep reinserting them. Certes (talk) 11:38, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Mobile media (local search) DELETION REQUEST

This section appears to be part of a multi-article COI between Yellow Pages Group and Trading Corporation. In this section (Mobile media), the original author (Wizoz)used a coatrack scheme to build content (7/6/2007) before plugging his company Canadian Yellow Pages (aka Yellow Pages Group). He signed up and authored the section within a few minutes of each other, and has not made another contribution to any article since (2 years).

Likewise, the same company had the articles Trader Corporation and Yellow Pages Group created within an hour of signing up on March 13 of 2009. This company author (YPIF) DID disclose that he worked for the company, however cited no references and cancelled the account. He also added numerous external links to the company's other various websites. The Yellow Pages Group article was flagged by another user as COI, NPOV on 3/19/09 and the company website manager did not respond nor has it been fixed by the WP community.

Aside from this, the section is not relevant to yellow pages. The IYP is covered in the section above, and the fact that you can see the results on a mobile device does not warrant its own section. Lastly, the plugs for yell.com and the other company at the end of this section are obvious adverts and not relevant to the subject matter either.

I have flagged this section for COI, OR, Ref and am requesting that this section be deleted entirerly to protect the integrity of wikipedia. I am also nominating the other two company articles for Afd.Jehosaphatz (talk) 10:24, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

There is no meaningful contribution to this article by having a mobile media section in the yellow pages. It distarcts from the meat of the article, and could only serve an interest of companies involved in mobile/handheld device and software development. It does not seem to service the wikipedia user. As such, in the absence of feedback I requested a week ago I am going to delete the mobile media section from the article and remove unnecessary references.Jehosaphatz (talk) 05:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Australia?

Isn't that a lack of worldwide view? And putting their logo here? Kayau Voting IS evil 07:17, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Yellow pages on demand

See:

• Crocker, Ronnie. "AT&T makes the call: White Pages are out." Houston Chronicle. November 12, 2010.

In case the sidebars aren't kept in an archived version of this article... " HELLO, OPERATOR? AT&T has decided to stop automatically delivering residential White Pages across Houston. The next issue of the doorstop-size phone book is due in February. The scope: AT&T printed 728,000 copies for Houston in 2009. Next year, customers who want a printed copy should call 800-792-2665. AT&T will deliver one at no charge. The backlash: Virtually none. When the company ceased automatic delivery in Austin in 2008, just 2 percent of customers requested one. Directory assistance: Available at www.corp.att.com " WhisperToMe (talk) 15:31, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 22:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

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Yellow Pages → Yellow pages – Per WP:CAPS. Dicklyon (talk) 06:26, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

• Support. Title refers to a common noun, a technical move that's uncontroversial.--SGCM (talk) 08:30, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
• Support but go further. The article has at least four subtopics:
  1. Yellow Pages, a trademark in the UK and elsewhere for the trademark owner's brand of business directory
  2. yellow pages, a generic synonym in the US and elsewhere for any business directory
  3. a description of printed business directories (with pages of any hue)
  4. a description of online business directories

As 2 has more text than 1, a move to yellow pages would be an improvement. 3 is larger still, and that text should probably be removed to Business directory (which was once a redirect to Yellow Pages). 4 is also large but reads in part like an advertisement for the online search industry; it could be shortened and added to Business directory or its own article. Certes (talk) 09:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

• Support per SGCM, and agreeing with much of what Certes has to say. The thrust of the article is not about a proper name. Dohn joe (talk) 20:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
• Support, until such time as there's a separate article on the capitalized and trademarked UK version it can redirect to the generic common noun (not really clear how BT managed to trademark it in the UK, but have added a source into article which shows they did). In ictu oculi (talk) 14:38, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

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