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Alleged death
edit(Note: the context for this discussion can be found at User talk:Yakudza#Your edits to Yevhen Deidei.)
@Yakudza: - if there is legitimate controversy over whether or not he died, the correct response is not to simply remove all mention of his death, but rather to add information about the fact that the death is disputed. See Wikipedia:Conflicting sources. Of course, if the sources making claims one way or the other are unreliable by Wikipedia standards, then that's a different story. That's not something I'm qualified to comment on, but if you're alleging that [1] and [2] are clearly reliable sources, while [3] and [4] are clearly not - the only possible circumstances where it would be appropriate to use one set but fully ignore the other - that absolutely must be discussed here until consensus is built, especially on a highly controversial topic such as this. And even if that's true, the claims of his death are clearly real and attracting notable amounts of coverage, so they should be mentioned in any case. -Elmer Clark (talk) 18:59, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- I did just that. I added a new section "Death statement".
- There is no official information about his death. According to the Ukrainian police, he is alive. [5] --Yakudza (talk) 21:38, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Yakudza: I apologize, I somehow completely missed that part of your edit. I agree that the way you framed it is a generally balanced representation of the sources. I have mostly restored your version, but with all four sources rather than just two of them, and some additional info in the lead and infobox clarifying that he has at the very least disappeared (for now). Please let me know if you think this version still needs changing, and I would appreciate if you could fix any mistakes I might have made understanding or citing the sources (I speak no Ukrainian and very little Russian). -Elmer Clark (talk) 03:46, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- talk, reports of his death were based on indirect statements by his wife on social media. The National Police did not confirm his death, and now his wife has reported that he is not dead and that he is outside Ukraine. I suggest removing the information about his "disappearance" from the introduction of the article https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2022/12/16/7380963/ --Yakudza (talk) 00:06, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Yakudza: I apologize, I somehow completely missed that part of your edit. I agree that the way you framed it is a generally balanced representation of the sources. I have mostly restored your version, but with all four sources rather than just two of them, and some additional info in the lead and infobox clarifying that he has at the very least disappeared (for now). Please let me know if you think this version still needs changing, and I would appreciate if you could fix any mistakes I might have made understanding or citing the sources (I speak no Ukrainian and very little Russian). -Elmer Clark (talk) 03:46, 26 March 2022 (UTC)