Talk:Yield (finance)

comment by anon feb 2004

this page has some history related to pseudonyms or authors, and was restored out of some status. the information on the main page qualifies as valid encyclopedic knowledge, and the holder of the article invited visitors to restore articles they found there. the text below is well-intended, imao, but is not constructed to a standard to qualify as neutral, informative and of general interest. the ideas represented there-in are certainly not idiosyncratic to the author, but the counterpoint approach outweighs the actual descriptive. one is left to wonder where the contrast with ecological yeild is a "key issue". key issues for investors would more likely be the relative value of fixed yeild instruments vis-a-vis other investments. Indeed, the article as balanced appeared as a vehicle for introducing the very valid concept of ecological yeild. But the version failed to first establish the role of financial yeilds in meta-economics before introducing more recently identified concepts of ecological yeild in relation to economics. a link to other 'yeild' topics would at least be appropriate, and if anybody knows anything specific about how concepts of environmental yeild are being applied in international economic discussions, and how dept-instrument yeild is relevant to global debt, this vestigial copy might jog some ideas:

Economics is very concerned with yields and related money supply questions. A key issue is the contrast with ecological yield and the monetary reform which some advocate to ensure that the requirement to repay global debt does not reduce the Earth's carrying capacity or carbon sink capacity. If the payments of economic yield to holders of global debt exceed that which can be borne by the natural renewal of the Earth, it's current solar income for instance, that is an energy subsidy which typically comes from fossil fuel and other non-renewable resource. Full cost accounting for these vs renewable resources may put hard limits on the amount of total yield that can be guaranteed to holders of debt instruments.

In practice, this is an issue with money supply and monetary policy and does not affect each individual holder of a bond or other debt, except insofar as it may lead from time to time to odious debt writeoffs or a major credit crisis. These are suprisingly common in a business cycle anyway.

Because of restrictions on who can issue debt instruments in a highly regulatedbond markets, the most egregious frauds(issuing junk bonds with a promise to tear down a rainforest to pay them back) do not usually occur in more economically developed nations. They are however still quite common in Brazil and other emerging markets.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.197.159.30 (talk • contribs) 20:46, February 9, 2004

Comment by jsaenznoval

In Engineering exist other definition to Yield, but not the same available in the Article "Yield (Engineering)". In a production chain, Yield is defined by the ratio between the number of manufactured products that meet the expected specs and the number of manufactured products. It measures the probability to obtain one guarantee product in the manufacture line. Where this version must be defined?? In a new article?? The article about Yield (Finance) must be extended?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsaenznoval (talk • contribs) 21:17, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I suppose Yield (Engineering) is the proper place for this - certainly not Yield (finance), which has nothing to do with engineering. --Jonathan G. G. Lewis 03:17, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities

Greetings Wikipedians! The text about these securities was much more detailed than that of the other terms in this section. There's a separate Wikipedia article on this type of security, and that's where that level of detail belongs. So I linked to that article. I'll read through the separate Wikipedia article on TIPS and see if it needs improvement so we don't lose anything important. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 14:02, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Reasons for today's changes

Today I published multiple changes. There's more work to be done, but today the main goals were 1) compliance with the policy on Verifiability of sources (too many statements lacked citations - I added them where I could), 2)reduce repetitive detail (some of the sections have their own Wikipedia articles) and 3) delete text that didn't pertain directly to yield. I deleted the Annuities section entirely, because it contained an unsourced statement that would lead a novice investor to choose annuities over other investments. Annuities are often marketed aggressively by stockbrokers. As written the section came too close to giving investment advice with nothing to point the reader to a reliable source. Also deleted the section on preferred trust units because it made virtually no reference to yield; seemed to serve no purpose. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 16:56, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

The inflation-protected securities subsection seemed obtuse and out of place. It is in this article only because it is a special case (coupon payments fluctuate). So I moved it a new section called "Special Cases" and added text about another special case: floating rate notes and bonds. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 14:28, 25 April 2022 (UTC)