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Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
RoyalSnowbird, please stop reintroducing edits that have been challenged without obtaining consensus on the talk page. See WP:Bold, revert, discuss for an explanation of how this process works. Anglicizing names is a common practice in historiography and few if any "keep them as found in historical documents". That is why you will never read about "Willelm the Conqueror" but about William the Conqueror. The 13th century versions of the name Alice were Alis and Alais. The word "nonne" translates perfectly to nun. Surtsicna (talk) 10:45, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
My response:
The name Alice was NOT 'Alis' nor 'Alais' in French in the 13th century - of this I am certain. I have yet to learn how to use the 'Talk' on this system (At the moment I do not have time for this.) Aside this, William the Conqueror's name in French was 'Guillaume' not 'Willelm' which is more Dutch and German in root origin and again bastardizes a name. Modern historian rules are you do NOT change names from original documents - as opposed to old practices of changing names into 'Anglicized' versions as too many errors have cropped up from this practice. This also encourages bad names changes of even French-Canadian names by Americans where it renders tracing ancestors much more difficult. I have over 40 years of history experience under my belt and you will not convince me that the practices you engage are either good or correct. Aside this, here you are talking about an ancestral relative of mine which adds insult to injury. Evidently, you know little of this history to know better and lack knowledge and I am shocked you are allowed to make changes to such pages. My 'moniker' here is not chosen 'by accident'. . . And - NO - the word 'nonne' in French does NOT translate 'perfectly' to 'nun' - this is an error! A 'nonne' is = a 'moniale' in French and in Medieval times and before it was equivalent to a female MONK - so, not the same as a 'nun' - so, I strongly beg to differ with you on this one! Modern dictionaries will give you the MODERN time equivalent translation but here it DOES NOT APPLY! I do not know where you got this garbage (some poor dictionary or online translator perhaps) but this is a poor translation at the very least - evidently, you have no in-depth and proper grasp of the French language (nor of the period and religious culture of the time) to know better while this is my mother tongue! Also: you removed much valuable information I placed in this profile (proper names, official titles ...which do not change in English as they are from the names of lands overseen via these same tittles - and, more) which is quite despicable. I have a good mind NEVER to contribute to the English Wikipedia and continue only in French where I am far more respected and valued than here where I see that people of little knowledge (like you) edit arbitrarily WITHOUT being well-informed and cut out very good and valuable information all on a whim and this is highly ridiculous and unjust. Tell me, WHY should I waste my time!? Know that my entire line has been authenticated in a court of law and this is indeed my family (for which two books have also been published in French in 1998 and 2001) and my information is more than accurate. So, please remove yourself from editing me in the future or I shall lodge a much more formal complaint. Good day. By: User RoyalSnowbird — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoyalSnowbird (talk • contribs) 02:23, 8 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
