Talk:Young Lust (song)

Dirty Woman

My Dad had the original album and it was called Dirty Woman not Young Lust

-Mrsanitazier 1:40 PM Eastern Time Sunday February 4,2007

I have no idea what you are talking about. The real name of the song is "Young Lust". I don't know what copy your dad has, but every copy I have ever seen has the name of the song listed as Young Lust. If I am wrong prove it to me.

My dad told me it was listed as Dirty Women on it not Young Lust.

Mrsanitazier 6:13 PM Eastern Time

I don't care if your dad told you. Give me real proof.

I haven't been able to turn up a single source that calls this song "Dirty Woman" except for people who don't know what the song is called, all the copies of it I've ever seen call it "Young Lust", and that's the name it's most widely known as. Unless you can provide some source other than "My dad told me", I think it should be changed back. --74.101.17.204 00:25, 7 February 2007 (U

Okay We'll Say Its Also Known as Dirty Woman.

Mrsanitazier March 1,2007 4:03 PM ET Disscusion End Here!

I am looking at the original LP right now. It says "Young Lust" ChunkyStyle (talk contribs) 17:42, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Look guys, not trying to sound like a moderator or anything, but we need to remember that this section is for discussion on what we can do for the article, it's not a general discussion forum where we talk about the song or Pink Floyd, even if it's complementary and especially if it's arguing over what the name of the song is or was. And Mrsanitazier, I don't mean to argue with you or anyone, but I do have the original LP of The Wall and I'm reading "Young Lust". I'm not calling you or your dad a liar, maybe your copy of the LP does read "Dirty Woman" for some reason but the original and official title is "Young Lust" so I suggest we keep it that way. Unless you can provide us with a reasonable source and not just someone's matter of opinion that the original or working title was "Dirty Woman", then we can discuss whether or not we can include that in the article. ~ Madroxxide17 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.0.55.39 (talk) 09:00, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

"Look guys, not trying to sound like a moderator or anything . . . "

Dude! You totally were! You went on to say specifically everything a good moderator would say!

And the two of them were discussing the article, not the song or the band. Mrsanitazier (did he misspell his own name?) wanted the article to say "Dirty Woman" was once the title of the song, or something like that. The unsigned/unregistered guy rightly opposed this. Mrsanitazier was completely wrong, of course, and you and the other editor(s) were right.

I thought it was especially hilarious when Mrsanitazier decided to be "agreeable", and said "Okay We'll Say Its Also Known as Dirty Woman." As if that was a reasonable compromise. Adding to the insanity, he capitalized each word, and put it in a big ol' box! I love it. The song was absolutely never called "Dirty Woman"; that's what makes this so funny and . . . compelling! And then there's you, pretending you don't want to moderate, when you absolutely and obviously do. You guys are great, I mean that. I'm not being sarcastic. I love this, and I hope nobody ever takes it off the Talk page for whatever reason. This section gives me a laugh every time. And I don't mean to hurt anybody's feelings with this. You all care about the quality of the article, and that's what matters most. Thank you for your contributions!

--Ben Culture (talk) 23:17, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Genre

The article states, "The song has a distinctive, raw hard rock sound that stands out among Pink Floyd's body of work."

I don't think it sounds like standard hard rock--too slow and ponderous, and not especially loud. I always thought it had more of a bluesy feel to it. Might it be classed as blues rock? marbeh raglaim (talk) 10:57, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

You must be kinda on the young side. Rock music circa 1979 really didn't come much harder, without being Led Zeppelin or full-out heavy metal. Compared to today's standards, of course, it's more funk/blues than anything else. --63.25.117.29 (talk) 12:06, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Depends what you mean by young. I'm 31, and I've always been a big listener of classic rock. By 1979, there were indeed many non-metal, non-Zep songs that were harder than this one: stuff by Bad Company, for example. Pink Floyd is often hard to classify, using elements of hard rock instrumentation to produce mellow, jazzy melodies. In the case of this song, I think blues-rock is more descriptive. marbeh raglaim (talk) 01:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to have to disagree with you guys on the Blues-rock thing. I've listened to enough Blues-rock to know that this song is nowhere near classifiable as Blues-rock. Anyone who listens to all kinds of rock genres would know that this song is Hard rock and Hard rock only (To be honest, I can't really hear any progressive rock in the song). Also, it doesn't matter if this song is considered something else today than it was when it first came out, the fact is that when a song is classified as a certain genre, that doesn't mean it changes over time. For example, The Who is without a doubt, a hard rock band but compared to today's hard rock sound which is more heavier, that doesn't mean they stop being a hard rock band does it? Anyways, calling "Young Lust" a Blues-rock song is out the question. It's genre is going to be "Hard rock" or at least "Hard rock, progressive rock" (but as I said, I fail to hear a prog rock sound in the song). ~ Madroxxide17

This song is definitely progressive rock, as progressive rock can span over many different genres, including hard rock, and in the context of the album being a progressive concept album, where this song tells a part of the story, I think it would be more correct to have it labeled as progressive rock rahter than hard rock. 80.213.200.195 (talk) 13:44, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Original synthesis?

I've started doing some minor to medium rewrites on the articles for the individual songs from The Wall. Regarding the "Film Version" section, I'm concerned about the following paragraph:

In the film, the scene with the attempted phone call, in which Pink learns his wife is cheating on him, occurs before "Young Lust" rather than at the end of it. The implications of the song are therefore slightly different. On the album, he is already unfaithful to his wife while on tour, making him a hypocrite when he is appalled at her own faithlessness. In the film, he is only seen with a groupie after he learns of his wife's affair, which shows the character in a more sympathetic light.

I'm concerned that this may be Original Synthesis, a form of original research. I'm not clear on the concept, and I don't think I'm very opposed to it personally, so I'll defer to the opinions of anyone else who wants to venture forth. --Ben Culture (talk) 08:57, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Telephone tones at the end of Young Lust

I was curious as to what the tones were at the end of Young Lust -- specifically, when the operator redials the number to try it again. So I wrote a program to decode MF tones, and the answer is: KP 0 4 4 1 8 3 1 ST.

I don't know if that's of interest to anyone. Cheers, -RK 108.162.140.207 (talk) 23:22, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

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