Talk:Yuri Lowenthal

Yuri and Johnny

Wondering if they are good friends since they do a lot of voice acting in the same shows and their characters are usually good friends ie: Haseo/Khun, Lelouch/Suzaku. Kirbyroth (talk) 18:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Being cast in the same anime shows does not guarantee they voice together as they usually voice separately. In an interview with Critical Gamer, Lowenthal said he didn't meet Samuel L. Jackson until after the show was released, even though he recorded a main character that interacts with Jackson's character. But you can check their twitter feeds and see if they refer to each other often outside of cast announcements. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 13:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Yuri as Derek Stiles?

I've heard a rumor (which is why I'm not putting it in the article, even though I swear by this to this day) that Yuri voices Derek Stiles in the Trauma Center Series. Besides going through episodes of anime and then comparing it to game footage on youtube, can anyone confirm this? (In-game credits might be usable, I don't know Wikipedia's policy on that.) --ArchabacteriaNematoda (talk) 22:57, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

In-game closing credits are usable as a primary source if they are visible so you can use {{cite video game}}. However, if it is just based on voice comparisons and matching (your effort or someone else's effort), then that is original research and cannot be used. Also keep in mind that some video games do not list English voice actors, and many video games just group the actors without matching any roles. There are also video interviews like THIS ONE which confirms Kirsten Potter, Stephanie Sheh, and Amanda Winn-Lee as voicing in the Trauma team game. Here's one he that confirms his role in Persona 4 Arena HERE -AngusWOOF (talk) 23:24, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Yuri as Raphael?

Where has it been stated that he'll voice the most aggressive of the TMNT? There hasn't even been a cast announced. (Plus, Johnny Yong Bosch would be much more convincing as Raph.)76.255.214.133 (talk) 03:40, 11 January 2010 (UTC)wondering fan.

No idea. I've only confirmed he voiced Donatello in one of the TMNT video games. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 13:38, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Ewan McGregor

I was playing forggoten sands, and it said that the prince was voiced by yuri. But I could have sworn he sounded like he was being acted by Ewan McGregor. Just sayin'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.119.195.226 (talk) 22:49, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

MOS:BOLD

I've removed bolding from this article because it contravenes MOS:BOLD. Attribution of "lead roles" is unsourced, it constitutes original reseach, and it adds unnecessary weight to facts that may not deserve such weight. Consensus against bolding lead roles has been established numerous times, including at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 134. It is also specifically discouraged at WP:FILMCAST, which is part of the Manual of Style for Film. Norozco1 continues to restore this formatting without any rationale, and without discussion. The user is invited to share their opinions here, but not to restore content that conflicts with consensus unless a different local consensus is achieved. Consensus is achieved through discussion, not reverts or votes. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:04, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm here to apologize for the action that i did and i promise from the bottom of my heart that I'll never do this horrible kind of consensus ever again because i finally understand of what you meant of MOS:BOLD, so if you can forgive me for what i did, then i'll be glad and just put the incident behind us, but if not, then i understand if you don't because you have your own reasons why, but i just don't want to loose my editing updates to this page, and i just sign up, and i'm new to this editor hobby, and i'm not going to stop updating new data that i find, wether its information or sources to the information, i'll find it, and update it to wikipedia, so please as an editor in training i'm asking, will you let me continue updating the yuri page? :'-( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norozco1 (talk • contribs) 00:44, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Norozco1 I appreciate the apology. Consensus means the majority opinion. If you edit against consensus, you are editing against the community, which is a problem. The community doesn't respond well when people treat an article as though they own it. That said, I understand that it's difficult to understand all of the rules right off the bat. Your best bet is to edit slowly, submit references, use talk pages as much as you can, submit clear edit summaries, and if you notice that your edits are being reverted, you should find out why (through discussion) before reverting their edit especially if the editor has a lot of experience. That doesn't mean the experienced editor is always right, but chances are they know more about the Wikipedia community guidelines and policies than you do, so it may be worth the time to listen. And if you need help using references, please see Referencing for Beginners. Good luck! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:22, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the link that you've provided me a moment ago, it was a great help for becoming an editor and try to make contributions to wikipedia with any information i can find, but like you said; i have to take this editing slowly, and i will with one little baby step at a time, so i guess that means you forgive me? :-) Norozco1 (talk)

I didn't take your edits personally, but if it helps, sure, I "forgive" you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:59, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Then we can finally put the incident behind us and hopefully that we can try to get along and help one another if we're in a jam that can't figure out, ok! :-) Norozco1 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:21, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

yuri in tales of xillia?

hey, i have proof that yuri lowenthal is in tales of xillia 2, here a walkthrough of his voice being played as additional voice, check it out and you'll soon change your mind about undoing my new data that i'd just put: so what did you think? :-)Norozco1 (talk) 17:31, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

References

Additional voice isn't significant enough to include in the filmography. And there's nothing that indicates that's his voice officially. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 13:32, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Finding better sources for the Guilty Gear series?

Hey, on your latest update to the article, your reason for this was, and i quote 'note guilty gear ref is still a problem', and i just to know just one thing, how can i make it not a problem for this article? Because i can try to make it not a problem as much as it is now, i just don't know how, and besides that, i found out that in the new game, Guilty Gear Xrd, yuri voices as bedman for the series, and i don't know how to prove it, so what should i do? :-( Norozco1 (talk) 21:52, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a blog post from a reliable source, tweet from Lowenthal, or resume snapshot that lists his role in the series? A review from a major game magazine would be good too, or an interview where the interviewer lists the role and asks Lowenthal about it. -AngusWOOF (talk) 22:06, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Hey thanks, i took your advice, and i tweeted him on twitter, so hopefully by tomorrow, i'll get a confirmation from him, Ok' :-) Norozco1 (talk) 22:59, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Even though a tweet or a resume update is a primary source, it's better than nothing, and can be scrutinized as public record. Cite video game and cite episode works well for most credits except where they are grouped under "Additional Voices / Voice Talent". I've put in his BTVA references which were screenshots of closing credits. -AngusWOOF (talk) 17:10, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Good to know, thanks, i'll keep that in mind to use in the near future, ok. :-) Norozco1 (talk) 21:31, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Hey dude, I have great news, I just got a confirmation from Yuri Lowenthal himself on twitter that he has voiced sin and that man in The Guilty Gear 2: Overture, and I'm still waiting to confirm if he's voicing The Bedman in the new Guilty Gear video game, Guilty Gear Xrd, ya know! :) Norozco1 (talk) 16:59, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Dude, you forgot to put a confirmation that he also voiced Sin as well, Because he made the confirmation himself ya know! :/ Norozco1 (talk) 17:19, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, got that one in too! just waiting on the xrd one now -AngusWOOF (talk) 17:23, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Ok, only he hasn't replied yet, but don't worry because i think he's probably busy at the moment, so let wait for him to be done with what he has to do, but untill then, just be patient ok! :-) Norozco1 (talk) 20:35, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Hey, great news, i've finally got a confirmation from Yuri Lowenthal, himself, that he is voiced as the Bedman in the new video game, Guilty Gear Xrd, So your wait is over and you can now put the confirmation in the article, Ok! :-) Norozco1 (talk) 23:50, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Need other sources for Skylanders roles

In response to this revert, Yuri's roles in Skylanders need to be reviewed again for lack of references.

So far the only things that have been confirmed are:

• Yuri voices characters in Giants (2012), Swap Force (2013), and Trap Team (2014).
• The closing credits do not specify a specific role for any of the voice actors, listing them instead as Voice Actors or Voice Cast.
• Yuri voiced Fright Rider on Trap Team. (kidzcoolit source)
• Yuri voiced Softpaw and other characters (not specified which others) but is mainly known for Softpaw on Swap Force (coin op TV with Tara Platt)

IMDb, voice chasers, giantbomb, GameFAQs, and amateur voice matching youtube videos are not reliable sources.

To state that he voiced Fright Rider or other specific characters on all three games is WP:OR. Since he doesn't have an online resume, if someone can ask him on Twitter or dig up some more interviews, that would be better. -AngusWOOF (talk) 05:17, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

From what I understand, asking Lowenthal on Twitter would still comprise WP:OR, since we are not reporters. (I'm trying to dig up a specific guideline, though.) I'm not sure why there is such a push to include information that can't be adequately supported. Wikipedia is not a breaking news source and we have no deadline. If something cannot be verified, we should omit it until such time as a reliable source can support it. Not sure why this is so confusing. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:01, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Well then, what do you think we should do to keep it from being omited? :-/ Norozco1 (talk) 15:13, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

When he has responded on Twitter to confirm/deny roles falls more in the WP:SELFPUB category; it would be OR if it were done through private media, although caution should be exercised if the person has a reputation of claiming falsehoods on their credits (not likely for Lowenthal himself so far) -AngusWOOF (talk) 19:02, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, that's actually true in some cases like this topic, but that's not exactly an answer to my previous question that i've just asked, ya know! :-/ Norozco1 (talk) 21:23, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Although it TRUE we need to find the actual sources where he confirms the other Skylanders, it will be tedious work, as it will take months, to years until we gave up. To be quite honest I felt that in my opinion the "better source needed" tag was used a s an insurance to keep it intact until we find the actual reliable source.73.166.187.154 (talk) 23:24, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Ok, then how do you suppose we find a better source for this, because you have to admit that yuri lowenthal is definitely in this game, you know that, right? :-/ Norozco1 (talk) 23:39, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Found a twitter remark for Fright Rider in Swap Force. Still have nothing on Trail Blazer. -AngusWOOF (talk) 23:59, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Great, that's one source found, lets keep looking for more, ok guys! :-) Norozco1 (talk) 03:49, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Yuri ' s interview

Hey guys, check out Yuri Lowenthal's interview, it's just off the charts right now, take a look: http://blog.viewster.com/yuri-lowenthal-interview-ill-likely-do-this-until-my-last-breath/ Do ya think that this kind of information could be good enough to be use as a source for this page! :-/ Norozco1 (talk) 02:39, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I've added it to refideas and started using it in the career section. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 13:30, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

rowspanning of filmography entries, with or without them?!

ok, I've notice that we have been having issues with the rowspanning of filmography entries, so let me tell you guys what happens with or without this option, so we'll start off what happens if we have this option, what happens with this option is that it's easy, takes less time to do it, and best of all, it takes less bytes then usual, but what happens without this option is that it's hard, takes much time to do it, and most importantly, it takes more bytes then usual, so that why I need you to answer this important question, would rather have this option on the Filmography entries, or without it?! :-/ Norozco1 (talk) 20:47, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

I know it's easy to implement but it's got issues with WP:FILMOGRAPHY and MOS:DTT accessibility. Where there's an obvious benefit as with discography / singles and movie releases, I don't see the problem with rowspanning the years. However, with television programs that start and end in all sorts of durations, it gets complicated. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:52, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Really, how does it get complicated exactly?! :-/ Norozco1 (talk) 02:47, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Here's a post by another WP:FILMOGRAPHY editor that might explain it better than I might have: User_talk:73.29.184.78#On_not_using_.27rowspan.27_in_WP:FILMOGRAPHY_table AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:51, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Ok I see this User's point, but isn't there a way to get around tgat, or maybe do a debate about ot, or something?! :-/ Norozco1 (talk) 02:32, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Far too many non-noteworthy examples and excessive detail

This article has gone off the rails in terms of scope, particularly in the section on his video game work. It's simply far too long. Wikipedia is not IMDb. We're not here to catalog every single thing this guy has ever done, we're here to present an overview of the subject's most notable roles. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. We don't need entries for vague crap like "Additional voices", for example. It's listcruft. It's simply impractical to keep adding every bit of work he gets—he works a lot. For perspective, at Troy Aikman, editors didn't endeavor to log every pass in every game that Aikman played. There is, however, a summary table that wraps up his performance year by year. Editors should keep this in mind, because it could be heartbreaking once this article receives the serious pruning that it deserves. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:59, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

What in the world is wrong with putting in Additional voices, many of them were NOT from IMDB FYI, secondly if you looked at the end credits for the video games films, and television episodes, some of the voice actors ARE listed for Additional voices. So no, I don't think we should remove Additional voices on ANY of the Voice Actors pages, as long as we find the right source from Video game film, etc... and doesn't come from IMDB the conflict will not continue to escalate. :/

Seriously this is the same pattern that I've been noticing in regards to changes that happen in a day, month, or year: the notable roles for the actors, MOS:BOLD, the year or births of the voice actors, the relevance/importance to the movies plotlines, and now removal of Additional voices for the Actors and actresses. If you and Angus would like to have it your way then very well I'll remove every Additional voice from the voice actors on Wikipedia. :-( — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnimeDisneylover95 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Your response is all over the map. I didn't say that you got the information from IMDb, I said that Wikipedia is not IMDb. The project does not exist to replace IMDb, or any other resource. We are not here to add a new entry every time Lowenthal farts into a microphone. Since you seemed to miss it from my first comment: Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. I have no idea what you're talking about re: birthdates, so I'll just point you to WP:BLPPRIVACY. Plotlines? I have no idea what you're talking about. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:20, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

As I wrote on my talk page regarding the Additional Voices, It depends on how the role has impacted the VA's career. If he's just one of tens or hundreds of voices, or among the wallas/loop groups, or voice doubles, then there needs to be some references that show that the actor's bit role is important, whether it be that it boosted their chance of getting another role such as Kari Wahlgren's minor Disney appearances enabled her to voice the lead role in Paperman, or Bridget Hoffman's loop group credit being listed among the voice cast in the Oscar nominations. The "complete" lists can always be listed in the external links to IMDb, ANN, and their websites, in case someone wants to find those roles anyway.

Regarding Yuri Lowenthal's filmography, I removed many of the Additional Voices, but I changed over some to Various characters as he did get credited for a bunch of miscellaneous characters in shows, much like how Pokemon voice actors voice a bunch of characters that are individually credited. Also if he is a regular in the Additional voices section, that's a good case for it to stay as they are using him in for miscellaneous episodic and guest voice roles. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:42, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Alright, we see your point, but that doesn't mean that he's right about the Additional voices not being removed, especially the part about finding the right sources from Video Games, and etc. So you can at least take his statement into consideration and re-add all of that data you've just removed from the article before we find the right sources for each and everyone one of them, ok dude?! :-/ Norozco1 (talk) 21:45, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

That's a different beast of having to dig up sources for each entry. The filmography has not been scrubbed for that at all. I just don't think it's worth digging up sources for entries that are likely not going to stay around for notability reasons. So he's in "Adventures in Voice Acting"? Great. So are hundreds of others. Find the articles that show his name being used to advertise the series. Then add it back. Not a big deal. For additional voices, find the cast announcements that say the show also features the (guest) voices of Yuri Lowenthal. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:54, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

I want to say that the editors have been heavily vested in finding the sources for all these entries, so I totally understand that effort not going to waste. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:10, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Now that was well said, Angus, and i know that you won't let the editors down, cause i've got your full support on this dude! :-) Norozco1 (talk) 23:28, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

I do want to stress that verifiability does not guarantee inclusion. Though great pains may have been taken for many of these, it is not the aim of this project to catalog everything this guy has done. It's simply not a sustainable endeavor. Lowenthal (or any number of other actors) could have steady work for another 40 years—what, we're going to devote dozens of articles to tracking his career? Listcruft. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:41, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, but still, it's too soon to know for sure, the same with the indie projects like hullabaloo, and besides, Angus said that he's going to take of it, so no worries, ok dude! :-) Norozco1 (talk) 04:44, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Huh? Are you involved in the same discussion that everybody else is involved in? It's unclear who you are replying to, or what your argument is. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:46, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, i'm involved in the same discussion that everybody else is involved in, and what i stated before is what my argument is, so, and my argument is additional voices not to be removed, especially kickstarter-level films, or any indie project that was involved in, could certainly deserve a chance to to find a right sources for them, ya know. :-/ Norozco1 (talk) 12:29, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

And what Wikipedia guideline or policy are you basing your argument on? Wikipedia is not a democracy, so we don't vote. You need to be able to articulate how your argument relates to Wikipedia guidelines or policies. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:00, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

The Kickstarter project shouldn't be listed. It's neither his personal project (like his books or Shelf Life) nor one he has a strong vested interest in so that one needs to meet notability on its own. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:05, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Ok, i see your point, but i understand that wikipedia isn't a democracy, and we don't vote on it, so what i'm basing my argument on is that we can't remove these indie projects just, cause if we can't use these links as sources, then let's just trying using the right souces for this, and see if these right sources will work. for ya see, these projects should also deserve to get a chance to survive notability concerns first since the entire filmography has not been scrubbed, just like the Additional Voices as well. :-) Norozco1 (talk) 23:24, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Kickstarter-level projects also have a harder time getting an article here if there are no notable producers behind them as then it just becomes WP:CRYSTAL. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:33, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Well, then what about getting verification from the voice actor himself to confirn these project, at least getting some confirmation from him, we can make sure that this doesn't become WP:CRYSTAL, ya know. :-/ Norozco1 (talk) 23:47, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Looks like Additional voices will have to be remove then, that's life in a nutshell for ya. :(--AnimeDisneylover95 (talk) 03:57, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Now wait just a minute, just because you think it's over doesn't mean that you getting to decide that it is, while throwing a temper tantrum, and besides, we haven't ever got a chance to find any right sources for these yet, the same with the kickstarter projects, that still need the right sources as well, and i seriously doubt that by blocking you from this article will resolve or change at this point, so i was think that we should try to compromise on this so that we can work together and not fight about it, ya know! :-/ Norozco1 (talk) 05:26, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about that, It's just because of Cyphiodbomb's and AngusWoof's Reluctance on what they considered is THEIR rules, especially in regards to the Additional voices for Yuri.--AnimeDisneylover95 (talk) 03:53, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Nice passive-aggressive complaint. Do you plan to contribute constructively to the discussion? I opened the conversation because in my estimation the filmography section is overwhelming and indiscriminate, and while it is clear that the notion of paring down the article irritates you, you've presented no sound argument for why we should continue to add to these ponderous lists, which means that if the content disappears, you will bear an equal part of the responsibility. If you have a captivating argument based on existing Wikipedia guidelines I'm all ears. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:29, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Yeah dude, we're willing to listen on what you havd to say, so please, be our guess! :-) Norozco1 (talk) 10:14, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

It's not my personal rule to require sources but WP:V's. Here's a recent example for Dee Bradley Baker. An editor posted that he voices Boba Fett in Disney Infinity 3.0. I looked at the closing credits and he is listed there, along with a hundred other voice actors. None of them have individual credited characters. Yuri Lowenthal is also on that list. How would I know if that person has a notable role in the production? In Baker's case, Boba Fett is one of the playable figurine characters in the Star Wars set so he should be important. His entry is pending sources to confirm that. But if Lowenthal is just a background supporting voice, then it's difficult to keep him on the list unless there's a press article that notes him as one of the notable voice talents in the game. If Lowenthal tweets, "check out disney infinity 3.0. I voice X" or puts that at the top of his resume or news site, then he is adding significance to the role as well. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:00, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

that's an excellent point that you made dude, and i wouldn't of said it better myself! :-) Norozco1 (talk) 21:33, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Here's a recently cited example video (thanks Lacon432) where they highlight the voice actors names but some do not get specific credit yet: CoinOpTV (September 16, 2015). "Lego Dimensions Voice Actors Interviews". YouTube. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:08, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

an excellent example, but is there an example of Additional Voices that you can put out there as well, just so that we can see the difference between the two! :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norozco1 (talk 14:35, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

I can go with my original example of Bridget Hoffman in Frozen, listed as Additional voices in the closing credits, [1] but appears on the Oscars list. [2] But most articles are along the lines of general cast announcements with miscellaneous voices tacked at the end, like [3] for Kenta Miyake and [4] for Jon Heder. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:50, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

ok, i think i starting to understand this more and more, but how about you start explain why do indie projects have a harder time getting an article here if there are no notable producers behind them as then it just becomes WP:CRYSTAL? even if you think that's the case, i indicate that it's not the case at all, cause these projects that Yuri lowenthal was involved in are extremely important for this article, and just like the additional voices, should also deserve to get a chance to survive notability concerns first since the entire filmography has not been scrubbed, and hopefully try finding the right sources for each of them, so if you can explain why we can't do this request, then i'll stop bringing this up again, ok! :-/ Norozco1 (talk) 21:34, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

In general there's WP:LSC and WP:CSC for entries in a list. This would fall more along the "hundreds of entries" grouping instead of the "complete ten but two non-notables". The kickstarter redlink is much like the actor planning to write up their memoirs but it has not been published yet. Even then I just don't see a personal stake in it like he has done with Shelf Life and his Voice Actor book. When I mentioned crystal, I was also thinking of WP:CRYSTALHAMMER on upcoming projects. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:38, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

ok, now i'm starting to see your point, but if that's the case, then doesn't this mean that a confirmations from Yuri Lowenthal, himself, won't be able to cut it as the right sources for Additional Voices and other projects either?! :-( Norozco1 (talk) 05:04, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

What kind of confirmation? If Yuri tweets "yes, I voiced in that.", it can be used to verify most roles. But that isn't establishing notability or significance. Adding significance would be a comment like "Hey check it out. I'm voicing in X tonight as character Y. You can see me at this scene. I'm in the red shirt. I'm excited as this is my first prime-time appearance on national television." Or, "I'll be voicing a bunch of miscellaneous characters for the show. I will play Bob the student in this episode. check it out." (Bob gets listed among the Additional characters). Or if he adds it to his resume and removes other roles. The latter effort is showing that he thinks the bit part is quite significant to his career. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:47, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

ok, now i finally understand this, so thanks for the explanation dude! :-) Norozco1 (talk) 23:06, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Kickstarter example

Here's a Kickstarter project which got covered by Forbes. [5] It involves another voice actor but it could work for their filmography. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:15, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

• @AngusWOOF: oh, well that's good to now, I'll make a note of that right away! :) Norozco1 (talk) 02:57, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Additional voices example covering multiple miscellaneous roles

Here's Dave Wittenberg's resume HERE which mentions "Utility Player" for covering the miscellaneous voices that would be credited as "Additional Voices". In some shows and games, he voices 20-30 different minor characters but is considered a major part of the show because of that coverage. That he is keeping that on his resume for years means he thinks it's notable for his career. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:09, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

• @AngusWOOF: ok, something to keep in mind in the near future! :) Norozco1 (talk) 21:47, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Scrubbing now

I'm now scrubbing the filmography for unsourced and minor characters. Also a bunch of the dub release dates are wrong. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:11, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Ok then! :) NJOrozco 21:59, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

There are a HUGE number of unsourced characters and titles. I've tagged these as citation needed, but if they aren't filled in with reliable sources and they aren't a main character, they will be removed. I'm also embedding some comments as to the character's importance if they aren't linked. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:23, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't see the reason to remove most of the minor incidental roles, and frankly sites like BTVA with a check mark have them credited along with several video game credits.--AnimeDisneylover95 (talk) 14:28, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Not trying to generalize something here Angus, but I don't like how you are being dismissive on ONLY just listing the important roles and leaving out the other credits regardless if it has a reliable source (e.g. BTVA)--AnimeDisneylover95 (talk) 18:58, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not here to provide exhaustive lists of every role an actor has had, there are other sites that are well established if that is what you want. For an actor with such an exhaustive list of significant roles some common sense is necessary. The article already includes links to those alternative resources. I can't see anything wrong with Angus's actions or views here and the article looks all the better for taking that stance. If you don't like Angus's stance then that is your prerogative, but from a content perspective there is nothing wrong with it, and you seem to be the only person opposed to it. From a scan of the talk page and article history that you seem to be taking this rather personally and I would suggest that you [WP:AGF|Assume good faith]]. SephyTheThird (talk) 19:12, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

What I'm asking is that select reliable sources (video game credits, television credits, articles that feature this actor, and especially BTVA with the green check mark) shouldn't be removed even if what Anguswoof and you believe they shouldn't be here. I want all the roles credited which is why i used those sources--AnimeDisneylover95 (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

BTVA checkmarks do not necessarily mean that show or that Lowenthal's role is notable though. I've now provided reliable sources from Rooster Teeth for the two shows and roles that were contested today and were formerly deemed non-notable. The production company has used Lowenthal's name to promote their series and to promote their episode. This "RT Anim Roundup! Camp Camp and more!". roosterteeth.com. Retrieved December 28, 2016. has more weight to notability than the plain cite episode: "Camp Camp Episode 1: Escape from Camp Campbell". RoosterTeeth. June 10, 2016. Closing credits. Retrieved June 10, 2016. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:04, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes, but BTVA still verifies the role he was involved in, that's the point with the green check mark.--AnimeDisneylover95 (talk) 15:55, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Roles shouldn't be removed solely because they're minor; cherry-picking leads to neutrality concerns, and "notable roles" is POV. Reliable sourcing is what truly matters. Snuggums (talk / edits) 22:47, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Okay, maybe we can bring back the minor characters, but what about non-notable film productions? Outside of ones he produced, if he guested in some non-Wikipedia-notable media like the Kickstarter'ed video game, should that count? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:27, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

AngusWOOF, even if it's the Kickstarter video games and animated shows or any indie project that he previously voiced in of that matter, it still counts & and has a reliable source that goes with it, ya know! :/ Norozco1 (talk) 01:16, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Except that Kickstarters aren't released material. As for indie projects, I've already covered his major ones in the production section. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:59, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

ok then! :) Norozco1 (talk) 07:26, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Lightning Returns and minor video game roles

@AnimeDisneylover95:, I can't justify keeping Lightning Returns on there because there's that huge "credits dump" cleanup tag on the article, and he is just one of hundreds of voice actors listed with no specific credit just Additional voices. I'm putting Disney Infinity back in because Disney Infinity bothered to give him an exclusive interview and highlighted Toy Box in a promotion. HERE so that shows his character is important to the series. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 11:38, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't see the reason to remove them, because frankly I didn't find all of those sources on IMDB.--AnimeDisneylover95 (talk) 01:35, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Ohio

William & Mary alumni writeup confirms Ohio as his birth place but also mentions Nashville and northern Virginia as hometowns. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:35, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Other alumni writeups such as ones from JET also confirm this. So this would override the Robotech interview for birth place. If there's a primary tweet that says "I am born in" then this can be revisited. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:10, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Not really sure how to edit pages, but I have the tweet ,Went and asked the man himself, he was indeed born in Alliance Ohio RankoHibiki (talk) 19:31, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

References

That works. Thanks for asking and having it official on twitter. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:08, 26 September 2018 (UTC)