Talk:Zero (Mega Man)/Archive 2

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Was Zero Ever A Maverick?

In Megaman X5, it is revealed that the Maverick Virus fails to turn Zero into a Maverick and only makes him stronger. Therefore, it is not possible that he could ever go Maverick. Instead, his so-called "Maverick" form is actually his true, original programming. (He was created by an evil scientist, you know.) Okay, so this can only be implied, but Zero never went Maverick, though he did carry it before he passed it on to Sigma.

Actually, newly revealed info from Capcom clears this problem up. They reveal that the source of the Maverick Virus was a "suffering circuit" originally in X and later copied to the reploids that makes them calm and hate violence. When Zero was taken back to the Hunter HQ was also installed with this "suffering circuit" resulting in his personality change. This also formed the Maverick Virus which Zero was immune to, but was a carrier and the main method of spreading the virus.

What is the source of this "newly released information"? I've heard nothing about it and it seems quite improbable. 70.118.112.83 22:23, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Irregardless of this we know Zero was a Maverick because Sigma did in fact say so in Megaman X4 (and Zero agreed). This was also shown in a flashback. I can't confirm that he was the originator of the Maverick virus(I thought they said so in X5 or X6, I'm not sure though), but he was in fact a maverick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adroa (talk • contribs) 14:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

False Info

"In two years, Zero has not been seen again".

Zero's legacy survived over three millennia later, in the game Mega Man Legends 2 (the exact date of this, or even the century for that matter, are not known)."Physis gave no information about the what happend to Zero's worl afterword, only pictures to infer on. And the former statment is being removed for the sheer lunicy of it, stating something then following up saying that it's not true. Geez. ~regruBgniK

I agree. Good work for spotting that. -Zero^Talk 20:16, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I changed some of the false information, and corrected some grammer; then I remembered who was "editor" of this page, and halted. What's the point if it'll just get reverted back? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zero X Marquis (talk • contribs) 05:42, 21 June 2006 (UTC).

If it keeps getting reverted back, you should do what you just did; Question it on the talk page. Try to remember to sign your messages with ~~~~ from now on, ok? - Zero1328 _Talk? 06:07, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry. I only revert edits that are unproductive or are less than favorable. The grammer and false information "fix" was unproductive. -Zero^Talk 10:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

See, this is why I shouldn't even have bothered. Note: you don't use " " to show significance to a term, you simply italicize it. Second, if you need not mention things more than once, or you run the error of redundancy. Third, it is unknown whether Zero was simply placed in the capsule as soon as he was finished, or whether he was used prior to which. Here's a question though: Why is it that you Zero, get to decide what "edits that are unproductive or are less than favorable." The fact is, that while this article isn't as bad as the X one, there are several grammer problems and false tidbits of fact, and while you cling to your vision of perfection, its far from it. Again though, this is pointlessZero X Marquis 16:57, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

One last thing. If you're going to source your work, don't lie and say that certain sources say something when they don't. I'm not to sure about the other ones (they look flimbsy as is) but I know that nowhere on the MMN does it say anything about what Zero can and cannot do in terms of the weight he can lift (the sites information has been down, which makes it even worse as you couldn't have retrieved the information that you did on that date). Don't put words in peoples mouth to help justify the words coming out of yours Zero X Marquis 17:26, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm dissapointed at this. I never edit with the intent to lead anything from productive edits. There does seem to be a bit of disagreement here as I'm never inclined to place words in another fellow's mouth.

MMN went down around 2005, I believe. Around the timeframe of 2003 and 2004, data was still operational and with complete inclusion. If there's a precise date you can provide for when the data was lost, including it would be appreciated.-Zero^Talk 19:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The truth of the information notwithstanding (by the way, it isn't, and there was a discussion on that sites board about the inclusion of parallel information regarding X being cited by Wikipedia as sourced from said site), while you are right regarding htat the information went down in 2003, the date that you decided to add the reference was much later (as indicated by the history of revisions for this article). Giving you the unlikely benefit of doubt that you really did obtain the information in 2003, and some how saw fit to not only remember it, but remember to cite it - if you cite something, you are supposed to cite it upon the day of its use, not 2 years later. It was your responsibility to cite what was there at the time, which was nothing. Had you cited the work back in 2003 and then the information had changed, that would have been acceptable, however, you did not do that, as such the source is invalid, and if you have nothing to back that up with, and others disagree with the information, you are creating the fallacy of appealing to ignorance; something cannont be fact because there is nothing else offered. Something to consider... Zero X Marquis 20:09, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. I used the date that the information was still present on the website. I cited when it was still operational and veritible. I reviewed the information on site in 2003 and hence cited as such. The reference cited is when the URL is accessed and the information disclosed, not when the reference is added to the article. -Zero^Talk 20:14, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Disagree all you want, but you couldn't have cited it when it was operational and added it here as it wasn't added until 2005ish (according to the history of the article). When you cited the information, you should have done so on that day, not 2 years later. Assuming though what you say is true (as unlikely as it is), you should have went back and checked if was still there and cited as such. Bottom line: you cannot cite something in 2005 of something that may or may not have existed in 2003 (especially if it doesn't exist). Keep in mind this before you say anything else: do you realise how unlikely it is that you read something in 2003, correctly jotted down the source information, and then 2 years later implement it? Zero X Marquis 20:22, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

This is a blatent misrepesentation of the facts. I do not recall noting I referenced it in 2003, I surmized that I referenced it since I first viewed the information in 2003. No, I shouldn't have done so on that day becuse I was not an editor at that timeframe.

I believe it to be perfectly likely. Its cited from memory. Correctly jotting down the source after two years is a simple matter (http://www.megaman.retrofaction.com; see I did it again) I recalled information. Fairly simple simple stuff I should have thought. If you have a query concerning this in the dates of citations refractor this to a reference policy page or something similar and continue discussion over there. My view on this hasn't changed and thus it would be innapropriate for me to change it. -Zero^Talk 20:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Zero was technically a maverick you retards he was created by dr.wily who also created Sigma however something happened zero's helmet had dr.wily's emblem on it and he fell down, and also in Megaman X5 Sigma's Virus infected zero and made zero a maverick.

See, the problem with citing something by memory is that if you cite incorrectly, there's no way unverify it. Also, there is no way for you to verify that that's where you actually got your information (the point of citation) I'm sorry, but I posted this article (and the X as it uses practically the same sources) under review. Your sources are faulty, and your justification for why they are is weak. Let them decide I guess. Zero X Marquis 20:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem. But I think, as you'll see, that the situation for mistermed information is negated by the source material itself. One cannot link directly to Gamefaqs, the referenced sourcebook has previously been verifed, supported by various users knowledgeable of the universe. The editor that reviewed the article is also quite well-versed. Sources are only generally provided when it is found to be dubious by a large number of editors. Noting the subject area and base of re-citing data from gameplay, this is not the case. I might comment I may have been over sufficent in the provided sources, as other character articles in this vein provided far less than I did. -Zero^Talk 20:59, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Images

"Mother Elf and her children image is not of the Mother Elf at all, it shows the evolution of the multi-named Cyber Elf of Zero 4. The real Mother Elf can be seen on the Dark Elf page, and looks quite different. -MFJ

I'm not sure if anyone is aware of this, but the Zero pic you have on the guise of "Absolute Zero" is anything but. It's a mislabed picture of Black Zero, whereas Absolute Zero references the armor he can receive in CM. And for whatever reason the bottom link tables are overlapped over one another. Just thought you might want to look into that. -—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.50.80.91 (talk • contribs)

I've corrected accordingly. -Zero^Talk 06:10, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Two things: (1) If you're going to steal Liline's art, glad you sourced it and all, but don't take out her watermark. (2) The image of black Zero is a fan recolour; the closest this form has received an offical image for was on the box of those Bandai models —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zero X Marquis (talk • contribs) 05:24, 21 June 2006 (UTC).

Sorry, but your accusation is false. The image was in its exact same form before the time of upload. The point is to show the reader Zero changes his armor color. I think it works quiite well. -Zero^Talk 10:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Fine, even if it was that way when it was loaded, the fact is it was lifted from her site, a site in which you admit it being sourced from, and the original work itself has the watermark. It doesn't matter what the purpose of the picture is for, its not yours to post. I'm not questioning the effectiveness of the image, rather your right to use it. If you want to use it, knock yourself out, but get at the very least approval from the artist or obtain an image with her watermark on it. Zero X Marquis 17:00, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Again, the Black Zero image is a fan recolour (a bad one at that) but if you ignorantly insist its inclusion, I uploaded a better image. Zero X Marquis 17:14, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I think this depends on weather or not the re-coloring artist objects to the work being presented here. I was aware of no watermark. Many fair use images are not ours to upload. The original proprieter is Capcom and thus ultimate fair use claims are left to them. The image was to depict a color change in appearence. I left it there.

As for the new upload, that's very nice of you. The new one is much more clearly defined about the edges. -Zero^Talk 19:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

My apologies: In an attempt to correct the tag for the Zero image, I left it in a tangle. I was going to revert it back to the way it was, but something urgent called me away from my computer (and by the time I came back someone had already fixed it) Again, my bad. Zero X Marquis 00:57, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, seriously you guys need to take Liline's art down or at least up load the images with the watermarks. You source the artwork from her site, and on her site the images have watermarks. Not only, clearly the watermarks have been Adobed (poorly at that) out. Zero X Marquis 10:33, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Failed GA

Although there is a lot of good work here, this article falls well short of the featured article criteria and significantly short of the good article criteria. The biggest problem is that it does not meet the conditions of WP:FICT - it seems to be written almost entirely from within the point of view of a fictional universe. It also fails to meet the conditions of WP:LEAD - not enough context is provided in the introductory paragraphs. An additional problem is that it doesn't meet WP:REF or WP:RS.

To give you an example of what is seriously wrong at the moment, "Zero was created by Dr. Wily, as implied throughout all the Mega Man series." is silly - X was created by Keiji Inafune! In fact, most of the article is utterly incomprehensible to somebody not familiar with the series - in fact, this entire paragraph:

Zero was created by Dr. Wily, as implied throughout all the Mega Man series. In Bass' ending for Mega Man 2: The Power Fighters, Wily informed Bass that he was working on a new robot that would replace Bass as his strongest creation. The silhouette of this robot was shown to be Zero in his post-X3 design, and a buster on his right arm, but without the Z-Saber. Beyond this, no more is mentioned on the subject in the classic series; however it is once more shown in Mega Man X4 that Dr. Wily is Zero's creator, as in his opening sequence it depicts the mad scientist lecturing Zero on Dr. Light (who he refers to as "his nemesis"), and how he must destroy him. Also, when flashbacks are shown of Zero stepping out of his original capsule, Wily's "W" and Skull insignias can be seen. Wily's name also appears among the random text during the Mega Man X5 opening video. It is not mentioned what happened to Zero, Wily, Mega Man or any of the other characters after Zero was released.

which really is meant to be introducing the character's history to the reader, actually serves no purpose at all unless you are familiar with the plot and characters.

Some ideas that could help:

• Try to write from a point of view outside the perspective of the fictional universe
• Can you include details about the process of authorship? Which writers or creators developed the ideas behind this character? What did they base it on? How original is the idea? Is it based on something in real life? You ought to be able to verify this using reliable sources.
• What has the influence of the idea been outside this fictional realm? Have any other game designers professed to "adapting" ideas like this for their shows?
• What about critical response to the character? Perhaps you can talk about the gameplay aspects?

To help you along, here are 3 really useful links:

• User:Uncle G/Describe this universe (Gives the right philosophy for writing about fiction in WP: Describe this universe! Keep that at the centre of all your writing on this topic and you'll be fine.)
• Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Check your fiction (pretty much the official guide on what is required of articles about fiction. Helpful but a bit dry!)
• User:BrianSmithson/Writing about fiction (Funny and useful! A must-read for anyone writing about fiction on Wikipedia... I guarantee you will find it helpful.)

You also need to consider your references carefully. Whenever a claim like "In the Rockman X manga by Iwamoto, Zero is somewhat different compared to his game-counterpart. He is usually sarcastic and has an extremely short-temper, especially towards Dr. Cain" is made that needs a specific citation - who is it who states that he is more sarcastic in the manga? Stuff like "Zero is usually pretty cold around death. He's witnessed countless deaths of innocents and those influenced by the Sigma Virus, but he never even batted an eyelash. In fairness, he has witnessed countless deaths, many by his hands, and many of innocents when he was a Maverick. Having to put this behind him could've influenced his inability to become emotional when he witnesses death" is actually a subjective opinion, not an objective fact, so that needs a specific citation. The references section is not correctly formatted. All external links used as references should have (as much as this is possible) the author, date copyrighted, and without fail the last date the URL was accessed (e.g. a good example of a linked reference would be this:

"German Sept 11 theory stokes anti-US feeling", Kate Connolly, November 20, 2003, telegraph.co.uk (URL accessed 6 April, 2006)

The link to www.gamefaqs.com needs to link to the specific subpages used in the article. A fansite doesn't reach WP:RS unless it is only being used to cite the opinions of fans - i.e. to describe the way fans have reacted to the character.

It might be a good idea to look at Spoo, which became a featured article. Read through and look for all the "encyclopedic" qualities of the article - not just the humour, but the fact that it had extensive inline references, all the references were reliable, authoritative sources, not just fan-sites (see Wikipedia:Reliable sources), it was written from the point of view of "this" universe, it considers in depth the process by which the idea was created, and it looks at the real-world impact of it. This shows that there is no reason an article on a fictional topic can't make it all the way to featured article status, but you have to do a lot of work, including extensive research, to get there!TheGrappler 19:05, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

This article was quite a bit better than Mega Man X (character) at the time of the respective GA nomination. Copying and pasting the qualms pertaining to it was unnecessary and does not match the intent. Nonetheless, I've done some clean-up here and there, all that remains are the citations. -Zero^Talk 01:34, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Got those too. -Zero^Talk 22:53, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

GA status

Well whatever problems Grappler mentioned in his analysis, they seem to be gone now. Looks NPOV to me, a good enough read, seems to capture the importance of the character, and it has references. If I may offer some advice though, unless the references you have there are super general, try to find some more, its a very large article and it just seems to me like there ought to be more citations somewhere in there. Also, the big "game history" section I would think should be split up into several sections, surely there's a couple clear divides in there somewhere, I think it would make it a more interesting read than the rather large lump of text there now. Homestarmy 00:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like good advice to me. I'll get on it. -Zero^Talk 05:22, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Model Number

Has it been stated anywhere what Zero's model number is? I would assume it to be something like DWN-000 or DWN-00Z (Bass is supposedly DWN-001, while Mega Man X is DRN-00X). WiteoutKing 17:22, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe it was DWN-Infinity --Reploidof20xx (talk) 09:53, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

References

Why don't they work? and where do they direct to? Like 16, I clicked on it, it led no where...confused! Judgesurreal777 06:20, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

GA Re-Review and In-line citations

Note: This article has a very small number of in-line citations for an article of its size and currently would not pass criteria 2b.
Members of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles are in the process of doing a re-review of current Good Article listings to ensure compliance with the standards of the Good Article Criteria. (Discussion of the changes and re-review can be found here). A significant change to the GA criteria is the mandatory use of some sort of in-line citation (In accordance to WP:CITE) to be used in order for an article to pass the verification and reference criteria. It is recommended that the article's editors take a look at the inclusion of in-line citations as well as how the article stacks up against the rest of the Good Article criteria. GA reviewers will give you at least a week's time from the date of this notice to work on the in-line citations before doing a full re-review and deciding if the article still merits being considered a Good Article or would need to be de-listed. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us on the Good Article project talk page or you may contact me personally. On behalf of the Good Articles Project, I want to thank you for all the time and effort that you have put into working on this article and improving the overall quality of the Wikipedia project. Agne 21:49, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Appearance inconsistencies?

We should really bring this up. If I recall properly, wasn't there a cutscene in X4 where Zero is activated by Wily that portrayed Zero with square shoulders and the updated (X2 and after) armor design, even though the flashback technically proceeded the first X game chronologically? Was this a retcon to Zero's original design or just a developer oversight?

Secondly...in one of the Megaman Zero games (I don't know which, since I haven't played them all) it's said that Zero is pitted against his "original" body. Strangely enough, that body looks pretty much identical to the Megaman Zero body. Dissapointing not to see his original X Series form thrown in...but anyway, the point is, was that another developer oversight or did Zero recieve more upgrades/body replacements than we are aware of?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.95.197.103 (talk)

The flashback in X4 could be shrugged off as an oversight, but I'd say that all the design changes are just due to art design changes in general, like the obvious difference in the X games to Zero games. - Zero1328 _Talk? 09:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

The fight against "Original" Zero (Omega inhabiting Zero's original body) was in Mega Man Zero 3. The reasons for the bodies looking the same were:
1. Laziness
2. Technology limits or
3. An unsolved mystery until Capcom ties together every Mega Man story (excluding Battle Network and Star Force, which are a different continuity)

Also, Zero from the MMZ series was a copy body (thus the altered appearance) with the original's heart/soul/mind/you get the point. Or it could just be difference in art styles. ChromeWulf ZX 19:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

There are plenty of possible in-universe explanations for both appearance discrepancies, due primarily to the large amount of vagueness and unexplained "holes" in the games' chronology. Note that most of the rest of this paragraph will be unprovable spectulation (unless stated otherwise) used merely to demonstrate possible ways in which the appearance discrepancy could be explained. Zero was likely rebuilt based on blueprints Sigma had found (since X and Zero have been repeatedly cited as being unanalyzable, it's canon fact that Hunter scientists do not sufficiently understand the technology behind X and Zero to repair them exactly as they were before, and Sigma was clearly familiar with Wily) and it's not inconceivable that he took damage pre-X1 (including losing his Z-Saber) and additionally was somewhat remodeled while being studied by Cain Labs, but then returned to his "original" square-shoulders form when rebuilt during the events of X2. As for the Zero series discrepancies, it is clear that Zero is awake and functioning during at least some of the time between the X series and Zero series, and could have experienced the appearance change before being copied and put to sleep (not necessarily in that order) in the first place. 70.118.112.83 02:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmm...you make a pretty good point. ChromeWulf ZX 03:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I've always sort of followed the notion that Zero's body was modified while it was being researched (Perhaps given new external upgrades that represented the reploid tech [aka artstyle] of the Zero era reploids) and that once the copy body was actually build and Zero's mind put into it, it was built based off of the modified "original" body. Speculation, yes, but it fills in just about all of the plot holes without contradicting the X6 ending. HEDGESMFG 13:07, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Irony

Should the irony of Zero's death in Zero 4 be mentioned? BassxForte 00:17, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

..What irony? - Zero1328 _Talk? 01:01, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Almost everyone in both the caraven and the resistence trailer ask Zero to come back and see them someday, Alouette even makes Zero promise to go to Area Zero with her and Ciel someday, I tend to take all that as evidence that Zero did not die. BassxForte 01:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

That would seem to be your personal interpretation. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

The fact I believe Zero did not die had no impact on my point, admin. It's extremly ironic that Zero dies when everyone is asking him to someday come back and see him, Alouette's promise being the most notable point. BassxForte 06:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

The claim that it's ironic seems to be your own personal interpretation, I mean. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:16, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I guess I can accept that... BassxForte 07:37, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Ironic? You mean...irony? Are you sure that's really irony, and not possibly macabre humor? As for the "evidence" - that's not anything like evidence for his survival, that's evidence for people WANTING him to survive. If there was something like "Epilogue - 10 years later, Ciel leaves the others forever, claiming that "her true love is back", THEN that would be slight evidence. Otherwise, we could use people wishing for something as "proof" that it happened.KrytenKoro 00:04, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

零式

In Command Mission, the techniques translated as "Zero etc." are in japanese named as "零式 etc." Since 零式 translates as Zero, should we include that as one of the japanese versions of his name?KrytenKoro 00:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

From what I can tell, it better translates "Zero style". And I really doubt that counts as Zero's name...something closer to wordplay. Like how "Light"/"Right" became "Hikari" in EXE, you know?—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 04:28, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

零式-コマンドアーツ

I'm pretty sure that this list in its entirety is not needed in the article - but for illustrative purposes, parts of it could be used to help. (ie, saying "an attack such as blah-blah, in which Zero uses his saber as a conduit to the realm of demons and turns himself into the Robot Devil."

It's organized by technique type (rolling slashes all together). The bits in () are the unnamed techs given by forms and elves in MMZ. Anyway:

Zero:

• 三雷 [さんらい] (Tri-Thunder)-Electro Namazuros
• 土間欠泉 [どかんけつせん] (Earth Geyser)-Blast Hornet

• 雷光 [らいこう] (Lightning)-Wire Sponge

• 落鳳破 [らくほうは] (Falling Phoenix Ripper)-Cyber Peacock
• 滅閃光 [めっせんこう] (Destruction Glint)-Shining Hotarunicus
• 裂光覇 [れっこうは] (Splitting Light Command)-Infinity Mijinion
• 爆炎陣 [ばくえんじん] (Burst Flame Array)-Flame Hyenard
• 天照覇 [てんしょうは] (Amaterasu Command)-Optic Sunflower

• 空円舞 [くうえんぶ] (Air Waltz)-Split Mushroom
• 飛燕脚 [ひえんきゃく] (Darting Swallow Leg)-Jet Stingray
• 氷狼牙 [ひょうろうが] (Ice Wolf Fang)-Blizzard Wolfgang

Z Buster:

• Dark Hold-Dark Necrobat
• 双幻夢 [そうげんむ] (Twin Phantoms)-Spike Rosered
• Yanmar Option-Commander Yanmark

8Guard Shell-Shield Sheldon

• Z-Saber, Z-Saber+, Z-Saber++, Z-Saber+++
• Σ Blade
• Fire Saber, Fire Saber+
• Ice Saber, Ice Saber+
• Thunder Saber, Thunder Saber+
• Z-Ichimonji, Rei Ichimonji
• Z-Rapier, Z-Rapier+
• Doubletooth, Doubletooth+
• Soul Saber
• Red Lotus Saber

• 烈斬 [れつざん] (Fury Slash)-Incentas {A}

• 零式終 [れいしきしゅう] (Zero Final)

• 昇 [しょう] (Rising)-Neon Tiger {L}
• 龍炎刃 [りゅうえんじん] (Dragon Flame Blade)-Magma Dragoon {F}
• 電刃 [でんじん] (Electric Blade)-Bolt Kraken {T}
• 雷神昇 [らいじんしょう] (Raijin Rising)-Tornado Debonion {T}
• 氷龍昇 [ひょうりゅうしょう] (Ice Dragon Rising)-Avalanche Yeti {I}
• 昇竜斬 [しょうりゅうざん] (Rising Dragon Slash)-Mach Jentra {F}
• 天昇斬 [てんしょうざん] (Heaven Rising Slash)-Pheonix Magnion {F}
• 天裂刃 [てんれつじん] (Heaven Splitting Blade)-Hanumachine R {F}
• 昇焔牙 [しょうえんが] (Rising Flame Fang)-Heat Genblem {F}

• 魚牙 [ぎょが] (Fish Fang)-Launch Octopus {W}
• 氷狼牙 [ひょうろうが] (Ice Wolf Fang)-Blizzard Wolfgang {I}
• 斬鋭弾 [ざんえいだん] (Slashing Sharp Shot)-Childre Inarabitta {I}

• 炎波 [えんは] (Flame Wave)-Flame Mammoth {F}
• 翔炎斬 [しょうえんざん] (Soaring Flame Slash)-Blazing Heatnix {F}
• 波断撃 [はだんげき] (Wave Finishing Attack)-Vanishing Gungaroon {L}
• 光幻刃 [こうげんじん] (Mirage Blade)-Sage Harpuia {W}
• 氷月刃 [ひょうげつじん] (Ice Moon Blade)-Fenri Lunaedge {I}
• (Rise Slash)

• 迅脚 [じんきゃく] (Swift Leg)-Overdrive Ostrich {W}
• 疾風牙 [しっぷうが] (Hurricane Fang)-Slash Beast {R}
• 飛水翔 [ひすいしょう] (Jetting Water Soaring)-Tidal Whale {I}
• 旋追斬 [せんついざん] (Spinning Chaser Slash)-Ground Scaravich {R}
• 雷光閃 [らいこうせん] (Lightning Flash)-Gigavolt Man-O-War {T}
• 旋牙突 [せんがとつ] (Spinning Fang Thrust)-Kuwagust Anchortus {T}
• 烈風撃 [れっぷうげき] (Gale Attack)-Tretista Kelverian {W}
• 武雷突 [ぶらいとつ] (Chivalrous Thunder Thrust)-Pegasolta Éclair {T}

• 錐砕 [すいさい] (Drill Crush)-Tunnel Rhino
• 氷烈斬 [ひょうれつざん] (Ice Fury Slash)-Frost Walrus {I}
• 断地炎 [だんちえん] (Finishing Ground Flame)-Burn Dinorex {F}
• 落鋼刃 [らくこうじん] (Falling Steel Blade)-Metal Shark Player {NE} - S
• 焔降刃 [えんこうじん] (Flame Dropping Blade)-Burn Rooster {F}
• 波動斬 [はどうざん] (Surging Slash)-Silver Horn {W}
• 落烈斬 [らくれつざん] (Falling Fury Slash)-Fairy Leviathan {I}
• 落砕牙 [らくさいが] (Falling Crush Fang)-Hellbat Schilt {T}
• 墜磐撃 [ついばんげき] (Crashing Rock Attack)-Nobel Mandragora {NE}

• 雷神撃 [らいじんげき] (Raijin Attack)-Web Spider {T}
• 疾風 [しっぷう] (Hurricane)-Spiral Pegasion
• 葉断突 [ようだんとつ] (Leaf Finishing Thrust)-Bamboo Pandamonium
• 突破 [とっぱ] (Breakthrough)-Mad Nautilus {NE}

• 空円斬 [くうえんざん] (Air Circling Slash)-Split Mushroom
• 三日月斬 [みかづきざん] (Crescent-Moon Slash)-Crescent Grizzly
• 円水斬 [えんすいざん] (Whirlpool Slash)-Rainy Turtloid
• 螺刹旋 [らせつせん] (Snail-shell Spinning)-Dark Mantis
• 兜割り [かぶとわり] (Helmet Splitter)-Wild Jango {T}
• (Jumping Rolling Slash)
• (Dashing Rolling Slash)

• 重波斬 [じゅうはざん] (Gravity Wave Slash)-Gravity Antonion

• 天空覇 [てんくうは] (Sky Command)-Storm Owl
• 獄門剣 [ごくもんけん] (Prison-gate Sword)-Soldier Stonekong
• 烈鏡斬 [れっきょうざん] (Fury Mirror Slash)-Earthrock Trilobyte

Douruga (同類蛾?) Glaive:

• 水烈閃 [すいれつせん] (Water Fury Flash)-Splash Warfly
• 連葉断 [れんようだん] (Consecutive Leaf Finisher)-Bamboo Pandamonium

V Hanger:

• 双燕舞 [そうえんぶ] (Twin Swallow Dance)-Wind Karasting

Bashiyou (馬車陽?) Fan:

• 絶鏡斬 [ぜっきょうざん] (Breaker Mirror Slash)-Earthrock Trilobyte

Kaiser Knuckle:

• 岩斬波 [がんざんは] (Rock-breaker Wave)-Gravity Antonion
• 昇龍拳 [しょうりゅうけん] (Rising Dragon Fist)-Avalanche Yeti
• 旋風脚 [せんぷうきゃく] (Whirlwind Leg)-Dark Mantis
• 雷迅拳 [らいじんけん] (Thunder Swift Fist)-Gigavolt Man-O-War
• 焔降脚 [えんこうきゃく] (Flame Dropping Leg)-Burn Rooster

Titan Breaker:

• 大烈鎚 [だいれっつい] (Great-fury Hammer)-Gravity Antonion

Buster Shot:

• Laser Shot-Hyleg Ouroubockle {NE}
• Reflect Laser-Copy X mk-II {NE}
• Time Stopper-Popla Cocapetri {NE}

• Blast Shot-Fighting Fefnir {F}
• Burst Shot-Blazin’ Flizard {F}
• Burning Shot-Sol Titanion {F}

• Spark Shot-Panter Flauclaws {T}
• V-Shot-Volteel Biblio {T}
• Tractor Shot-Mino Magnus {T}

• Triple Shot-Polar Kamrous {I}
• Blizzard Arrow-Blizzack Stagroff {I}
• Ice Javelin-Tech Kraken {I}

Shield Boomerang:

• Filter Shield-Rainbow Devil mk-II
• Orbit Shield-Anubis Necromancess V {T}
• Shield Sweep-Glacier le Cactank {I}

Triple Rod, Chain Rod:

• Energy Chain-Burble Herkelot

Recoil Rod:

• 1000 Slash-Deathtanz Mantisk {NE}
• Soul Launcher-Cubit Foxtar {F}

Zero Knuckle:

• none? Weil Dagger?

• 斬光輪 [ざんこうりん] (Slash Halo)-Hellride Inobuski
• 飛影刃 [ひえいじん] (Darting Shadow Blade)-Snipe Arikuik

KrytenKoro 00:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Need more pics

The title says it all. Some pictures of Zero in other MMX games (MMZ also) are needed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.235.70.247 (talk) 14:00, 29 April 2007 (UTC).

I'm working on getting more pictures on there. I'll put some pics of Zero in Megaman Zero 1 and 4. ⊕Assasin Joe ^talk 19:22, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Black Zero

Black Zero has his own article. I propose a merger with this one. See that article's talk page for more info. ChromeWulf ZX 20:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

It should really be deleted. Black Zero isn't that improtant.Satoryu 20:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, better yet. It should be deleted. I overlooked the fact that most of the info that I brought up there is already here. ChromeWulf ZX 21:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok the article is up for deletion. ChromeWulf ZX 00:33, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 02:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Cleaned up the Game History section a bit

Removed info describing game production rather than the stories in the games as it doesn't belong there. Too much about albums and sources and discussions of what directors said rather than what happens in game.--Neofcon (talk) 05:12, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Delisted

This lacks real world information, among other problems, so I am delisting it. TTN (talk) 13:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Wily did build Zero

This isn't just original research. This is confirmed in Rockman Zero Official Complete Works, a Japanese sourcebook that came out two years ago. Here's a roughly translasted excerpt from page 174: "Zero was the first repliroid to be infected with the Sigma Virus but Zero which was developed by Wily to be a completely evil repliroid, despite being infected by Sigma Virus isn't transformed into an iregular, [instead] was reborn as a good repliroid." The English version is scheduled to have come out today. Satoryu (talk) 23:43, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Prove it. I mean there has been no information provided,you could have just pulled it out of nowhere. Until any credible research other than "you word" is provided don't change anything. As far as all english media is concerned, and everything actually referenced on the page, there is no definite evidence that Zero was in fact created by Wily. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adroa (talk • contribs) 14:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Why is it original research anyway?! The arcade game shows Wily's blueprints for Zero, and X4 has a flashback of Zero's with Wily...—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 06:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

The Arcade games show the outline of a robot that resembles Zero, and X4 shows a "shadowy figure" that resembled Wily. None of this is definite.Adroa (talk) 08:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

The book is out in English now. Here's a direct quote from page 174: "Zero was the first Reploid to be infected by the virus, but as an android created solely for evil, destructive purposes by Dr. Wily, the virus affected him uniquely." Satoryu (talk) 20:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

At the end of Mega man 2: The Power Fighters, it's extremely obvious that Wily's new robot is Zero. Here is the ending http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzwK-XgM6CI Bass's ending starts at 3:20. I wonder what Wily's other project is, the Maverick virus perhaps? Now if only Zero will apear in a "classic" Mega Man game, probably won't happen in Mega Man 9, since it's for the NES "grumble grumble" Maxtro (talk) 23:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Zero Omega

I saw this several years ago, where it addressed zero by the title "Zero Omega The Red Irregular Hunter" on some figurine artwork from Japan. I may be mistaken on the order but I am positive they adressed him as "Zero Omega" (this is why I thought something was up when Megaman Zero first introduced the character Omega). I can't seem to find this specific toy, does anyone else recall this. If so I think this would be useful information to put up.Adroa (talk) 21:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Zero and Protoman are the same person

Zero and Protoman are the same person, the artile's should be merged protoman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.49.7.125 (talk) 23:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

...I take it you haven't played the games AT ALL. Zero is the final creation of Dr. Wily. In Power Fighters, you can see Wily is working on Zero, at the same time Blues is still active. Don't say Wily picked up Blues and upgraded him or something. The two are COMPLETELY different. SpeedBurner (talk) 23:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

If you do want to make that claim you will need very solid evidence. --76.66.186.47 (talk) 03:33, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

129.49.7.125 is obviously a Mega Man n00b. 59.167.100.207 (talk) 06:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

LOL i think he was just trolling.

Article about Keiji Inafune ending the theories of Zero killing the Mega Man cast

Does anyone object to me posting this information? I believe it should be here because MANY people for years debated on this, and since he killed that theory with that answer, I believe it should be on here, and i have the source to back it up as well.

He was asked on September 10th of last year, because of the hype of Mega Man 9 coming out. If you object, please state why before deleting that part without talking to me first.

Thank you. Im not a Wikipedia expert, but i can do a little here and there. lol--Dr. Pizza (talk) 11:31, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Zero's sex

I think it's an interesting question if the Japanese creators intended Zero to be a female android initially. Because on page 7 in the german instruction booklet of Mega Man X, Zero is described as "Anfuehrerin der Maverick-Jaeger" (literal: female leader of the maverick hunters). Furthermore Zero looks quite feminine in the artwork of Mega Man X, especially if you look at her chest. 83.171.146.95 (talk) 13:08, 30 May 2009 (UTC)