Talk:Zhengde Emperor

Latest comment: 14 days ago by Yusufalhindi in topic Are those porcelain plates actually from his court?

Impotency?

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I wonder if anyone can elaborate on why the Zhengde Emperor was without heir if the article emphasizes his womanizer ways. He died at the age of 30, well past the cultural norm of pairing up and fathering many children. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Missaneurysm (talkcontribs) 11:25, 18 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Dark affliction

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Don't know if the original place about this mysterious thing is at History of Ming scroll 28. Opinions, anyone? Benjwong (talk) 00:46, 1 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Zhengde's ties with Muslims at his court

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  • Dardess, John W. (2012). Ming China, 1368-1644: A Concise History of a Resilient Empire. Rowman & Littlefield. ISBN 1442204915. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Oriental Blue and White, London, 1970, p.29.
  • Garner, Sir Harry M. (1970). Oriental Blue and White. The Faber monographs on pottery and porcelain (3rd ed.). London: Faber. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Association for Asian Studies. Ming Biographical History Project Committee (1976). Association for Asian Studies. Ming Biographical History Project Committee; Goodrich, Luther Carrington; 房, 兆楹 (eds.). Dictionary of Ming Biography, 1368-1644, Volume 1. Vol. Volume 1 of Dictionary of Ming Biography 1368-1644: The Ming Biographical History Project of the Association for Asian Studies (illustrated ed.). Columbia University Press. ISBN 0231038011. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: |volume= has extra text (help); Invalid |ref=harv (help)

Zhengde was close to muslim eunuchs at his court and is rumored to have converted to Islam, he passed an edict banning pig farming. The majority of his eunuchs were Muslims.

http://books.google.com/books?id=ROQVzWT2iiUC&pg=PA47#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=bANasl7nayUC&pg=PA213#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.fa.hku.hk/home/JenChianEssay.pdf

http://finearts.hku.hk/wp-content/uploads/revamp2013/misc/2009/JenChianEssay.pdf

http://www.docin.com/p-442754028.html

http://www.wendangwu.com/doc/content/201212/21/232518047096.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=A7HMZ-flk9kC&pg=PA207#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=wMK-Ba0-RG4C&pg=PA477#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20024/lot/37/

http://books.google.com/books?id=o0pS_hjfKs8C&pg=PA175#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=o0pS_hjfKs8C&pg=PA176#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=wnVwuJvo4YgC&pg=PA187#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=-PVPyPRcPBYC&pg=PA4#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=5LSvkQvvmAMC&pg=PA361&dq=ming+restorationist+muslim&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eT-fUP3jC4a70AGv94G4Bg&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=riPEes0xs-YC&pg=PA181#v=onepage&q&f=false

Zhengde had several Uighur and Semu concubines who were brought to him by his Central Asian bodyguard, Yu Yong, who might have been trying to convert him to Islam.

http://books.google.com/books?id=J4L-_cjmSqoC&pg=PA64&dq=zhengde+Uighur+concubine&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5efiUqedMMLksATmkYCICw&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=zhengde%20Uighur%20concubine&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=SQWW7QgUH4gC&pg=PA657&dq=Zhengde+exotic+women+Mongol+Uighur&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1OviUqKPJsXjsASlgYKIBQ&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Zhengde%20exotic%20women%20Mongol%20Uighur&f=false

The surname of the Mongolian speaking Semu concubine is Ma.

馬姬

http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-hant/马姬_(明武宗)

http://books.google.com/books?id=067On0JgItAC&pg=PA309&dq=chu+hou-chao+central+asian+uighur&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_O3iUp_2N5LlsASr-oKoAQ&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=chu%20hou-chao%20central%20asian%20uighur&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=067On0JgItAC&pg=PA314&dq=chu+hou-chao+uighur&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8O3iUoP9KdDksAT8_IGIBQ&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=chu%20hou-chao%20uighur&f=false

http://www.sino-platonic.org/complete/spp110_wuzong_emperor.pdf

http://books.google.com/books?id=Z6JwAAAAMAAJ&q=Wuzong+Uighur+concubine&dq=Wuzong+Uighur+concubine&hl=en&sa=X&ei=X-riUrjfHtHLsAS32oD4BA&ved=0CFcQ6AEwBw

The Central asian bodyguard was .於永 Yu Yong

你兒干 你兒幹 Ni'ergan was the Uyghur concubine

明武宗

http://www3.ipm.edu.mo/cweb/p_2systems/2010_7/book5_vision/p164.pdf

03:37, 2 February 2014 (UTC) 04:57, 23 March 2014 (UTC)


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- How does he know which is fabricated and which is not? Especially since half of his books don’t provide proper citations and as demonstrated by a proper academic journal utilised in this article, there were many pro-Islamic myths flying around during the period. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yusufalhindi (talkcontribs) 01:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Died at age 29 or 31?

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The intro says he died at age 29, the Infobox says 29, and the Death section says 31. Can someone confirm and hopefully provide a reference? ₪RicknAsia₪ 05:21, 17 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

It's been changed, but still sounds a bit confusing. As I understand it, he died at 29 going by the modern way of counting someone's age. However, if we're going by the method of determining someone's age that was used during the time in which he was alive, then he was 31 years old at the time of his death. Nakonana (talk) 13:28, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Great victory at yingzhou

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I feel like his victory over dayan khan should be explored more 2603:8001:8446:6EBB:6204:16AD:9669:E397 (talk) 15:44, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Are those porcelain plates actually from his court?

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All of the links cited show that those works of porcelain came from during his reign. None indicate a direct connection to his court. Yusufalhindi (talk) 01:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Right if no one is to going to reply to this, I will remove the citations and indicate that there is no source for this. Yusufalhindi (talk) 14:16, 25 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Interest in Hui women and interest in foreign culture?

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This could help perhaps clear up some doubts regarding his beliefs and antics.

As seen in one of the talk comments, Zhu Hou Zhao was interested in foreign,namely Hui women, though sources clearly indicate that it was due to lust and not a religious preference.

The same can be said for his liking of Arabic/Persian Calligraphy, he was a fan of foreign cultures in general, having also shown an interest in Tibetan, Mongol and even Portuguese culture despite initial hostilities. 103.252.201.176 (talk) 01:52, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

- Yusuf (I wasn’t logged in, I apologise). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yusufalhindi (talkcontribs) 01:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply