Talk:Zoe Luper

First transgendered character

I removed Zoe will be the first transgendered character on an ABC daytime drama. , since this is not true. The character of Azure C. on The City was transgendered. User:Zoe|(talk) 19:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps the following quote from Playbill could be added: "The storyline marks the first time a daytime serial has chronicled the coming-out saga of a transgendered character." Source: http://www.playbill.com/news/article/103785.html. Also, perhaps the article could make it clearer at the beginning who "Zarf" is.

Zoe?

just curious, is "Zoe" something that Zarf is calling himself now, or has he announced that he will be known as Zoe once he has the operation? Until such a time as she calls herself that, we should stick with Zarf, huh? User:Zoe|(talk) 19:12, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

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Recent changes

Ringbang, regarding the title change, I probably would have objected in the past since the character was mainly known as Zarf and then became known as Zoe and the last name wasn't really used (not close to commonly anyway), but I understand why you made the title change. And it's nice to see the article being expanded. Thanks for taking the time to build the article. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:00, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

I question the use of "perhaps" and "may" for the "first transgender television character depicted at the beginning of male-to-female transition and coming out" parts, though. We need to stick to what the sources state or use WP:In-text attribution if there is doubt about the statement. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:08, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I used those qualifiers because that's what the sources I used also say, and apparently GLAAD weighed-in on the matter. Certainly it is preferable to be able to say something more definite. Of course a character's surname may not be commonly spoken in dialogue. Nevertheless, that is the name of the character. Ringbang (talk) 16:46, 16 December 2017 (UTC)