Talk:Zou Bisou Bisou/GA2
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Reviewer: Status (talk · contribs) 19:35, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Hey Tony, I will begin reviewing this article shortly. 
- "Zou Bisou Bisou" or "Zoo Be Zoo Be Zoo" is a 1960 single that was released under the same name ten hours after its performance on the March 25, 2012 Mad Men's season 5 premiere episode "A Little Kiss" on the AMC Channel. Gillian Hills claims the song was her first single in the summer of 1960 as "Zou Bisou Bisou" and Jessica Paré performed the song on Mad Men as Megan Draper in a scene set in summer 1966. --> Claims? Why exactly is a cover version of the song used in the first sentence? And if it was her first single, why is the song infobox used? For someone who is not familiar with the song, the lead confuses the hell out of me.
- This article is clearly just focused on Jessica Paré's version of the song, correct? Why not just have her as the artist of the song, and include information about how previous artists performed the song. At a quick look at the references, it seems as if they are all about her version of the song.
- Typically, when a song has multiple versions, they are all in the same article. See my WP:FA that just passed this week: "Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song)" or see a song like "I Will Always Love You". Both of those songs are songs where the most critically acclaimed version of the song was not the original. Do you really think we should present this as if it is Pare's song?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:23, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- I understand that, but this is a different case altogether. Here, all the references relate to Pare's version of the song. Check out "No Me Ames", for example, it's a Spanish translation of an Italian song entitled "Non Amarmi". It's not notable enough on its own, so it's just mentioned that it was originally recorded by others. Do you understand what I mean? Statυs (talk) 20:53, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- I'll get to it in the next few days.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:09, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- I understand that, but this is a different case altogether. Here, all the references relate to Pare's version of the song. Check out "No Me Ames", for example, it's a Spanish translation of an Italian song entitled "Non Amarmi". It's not notable enough on its own, so it's just mentioned that it was originally recorded by others. Do you understand what I mean? Statυs (talk) 20:53, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- Typically, when a song has multiple versions, they are all in the same article. See my WP:FA that just passed this week: "Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song)" or see a song like "I Will Always Love You". Both of those songs are songs where the most critically acclaimed version of the song was not the original. Do you really think we should present this as if it is Pare's song?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:23, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- I will put the article on hold for a few days so you can get to these issues. It isn't exactly clear what is going on with the song.
- Is it now formatted as you suggested?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:02, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
New format review
edit- I took it upon myself to adjust the article a bit more. There are, however, some remaining issues:
- Lead
- Ten hours after its on-air performance --> It isn't really relevant as to how many hours after the performance it was made available. The following day works fine.
- Before going onto the other versions of the song, how about stating something along the lines of: "Zou Bisou Bisou" was recorded by various artists before Paré.
- Done.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:03, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Background and production
- The lead is clear on the origins of the song, while this bit here is a confusing. It just goes to state: "Several sources state that Hills did not produce her version until 1961", while the lead says: "Although most sources associate the origins of the song with Hills, New York claims the songwriting credits make it more likely that Loren's version was the original."
- iTunes --> iTunes Store
- Done.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:07, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Has it been released to Amazon or in stores yet? This was several months ago.
- Only other versions are at Amazon.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:53, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- Usually people record in a recording studio. What recording studio?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Status (talk • contribs) 16:56, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Are you talking about the Paré version? Don't TV studios, have sound studios that are sufficient for recording music.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:05, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- as well as two vinyl editions online --> made available online
- Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:29, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- Charts
- Where's the source for the chart position?
- Added?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:38, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- Verdict
- All issues have been addressed. Passing the article! Statυs (talk) 05:00, 24 June 2012 (UTC)