Talk:Zou Heng/GA1

Latest comment: 2 days ago by UndercoverClassicist in topic GA Review

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Nominator: Generalissima (talk · contribs) 23:43, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: UndercoverClassicist (talk · contribs) 06:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply


I'll have a look at this. Caveat that I don't speak Chinese, and indeed had never heard of Zou before picking up the article, but I do have a background in archaeology that will, I hope, be helpful.

Will give it a read through and make some general/quick-fix comments before looking at images, copyvio and sourcing. UndercoverClassicist T·C 06:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • eventually settling in Santai County, Sichuan, where he graduated from middle school. He briefly enrolled in Peking University: I'm not familiar with the Chinese education system, but it sounds as if he skipped a stage (high school?) in the middle. Is that right?
    • Infuriatingly, "middle school" is grades 8-12, what would be middle and high school in a US context. I added a footnote for this. - G
  • field excavations in Luoyang and the Erligang site. : and at the Erligang site.
    • Fixed. - G
  • I would clarify that the National Museum of Asian Art is in the United States, rather than China.
    • Fixed. - G
  • We call it the Shimada Prize in the lead but the Shimada Award in the infobox. Is this definitely a notable enough award to get such high billing?
    • Corrected to Prize and linked, that's just the name. - G
  • Zou was born on January 30, 1927 in : comma after 1927.
    • Fixed. - G
  • recognizing that the nascent Communist government would replace the Republic's law codes: I think this could perhaps do with a bit more fleshing out, for readers who don't know their Chinese history: what was the Republic and where had this new Communist government come from? On another note, this follows from transferred to the History department during the Chinese Civil War, but seems to imply that the war was (effectively) over by the time he made the decision.
  • Any chance of some links in Han tombs at Shaogou, Luoyang -- and perhaps a date for the Han dynasty?
  • He reconstructed a number of pottery vessels from sherds, a relatively new technique in Chinese archaeology: this surprised me, as it was an old technique in European archaeology. Do you know the story as to when and how it entered Chinese practice?
  • In 1955, he graduated from Peking University, becoming the first person to earn a Doctoral Candidate degree (equivalent to a PhD) in archaeology since the foundation of the People's Republic: I think we need a date on the founding of the PRC (it was six years before). Any idea why nobody had done so earlier?
  • During the late 1950s, he: generally, we would restate the name at the beginning of a new paragraph or section.

More to follow -- greatly enjoying it so far. UndercoverClassicist T·C 06:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • identifying it with the ancient capital of the Yan state: identifying it as?
  • During this time, he successfully saved: suggest cutting successfully as WP:PUFFERY (it's implied in saved)
  • He published various major works immediately after the end of the revolution: is this the Cultural Revolution? What's the date we're imagining here?
  • Zou was not named as the author of the book due to the significant contribution from earlier archaeologists: not sure this sentence quite makes sense. Do you mean that the book was considered fundamentally to be Guo's work?
  • "Sinologist" is usually capitalised, I think.
  • Zou continued his work at Tianma-Qucun despite frequent death threats: from the looting gangs?
  • American sinologist Robert Throp criticizes Marxist historiography: if it's the Marxism that he's criticising, is this really due in an article on Zou? On the other hand, if he criticised Zou's work for being overly/dogmatically/ineptly Marxist, that's a different thing and should be phrased as such.
  • Bibliography is rather short -- I found quite a bit on Google/Google Books which, while not full-scale biographies, made potentially important passing comments. Will put together a list later on.
  • He enrolled in Peking University as a law student the following year, but transferred to the History department: wonky capitalisation here. When in doubt, the Wikipedia MoS is usually to decapitalise.