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The first rule of tax evasion is you don't discuss tax evasion... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.148.197.233 (talk) 18:51, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

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"trivia"

@Smallbones: you made this edit [1] to delete text you state is trivia from a section that is already templated to expand. I have reverted that edit as it clearly goes along with the tiny amount of other cryptocurrency content on the article. The content is well sourced by Deutsche Welle. Please justify your deletion before attempting to delete it again. I have also added the blockchain template to the talk page, as you have made similar blockchain article edits here[2] which I reverted and you subsequently went on to delete it again. Looks like WP:TE. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 09:35, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

@Jtbobwaysf:. It looks like trivia to me because it looks like a symbolic action or publicity stunt that really is not going to be put into practice. The amount that can be paid in bitcoins to the government is limited to 200 CHF (about $200), maybe enough for a couple of parking tickets? Who cares? One way that I look at trivia is: "if the "fact" was changed, would anybody notice it? Would it ever be reported in a reliable source so that we could correct the article?" By that standard, this is trivia. If somebody wanted to show that bitcoin is important to Zug's economy, there might be reasonable ways to do that, but showing that at one point you could pay for parking tickets in bitcoin, is not the way.

One question, Jtbobwaysf put the cryptocurrency page level restriction notice at the top of this page. Are non-admins allowed to do this? If so I might think about a few more pages. I'm pretty sure you should record these at Wikipedia:General sanctions/Blockchain and cryptocurrencies in the "page level sanctions" section in any case. Pinging @MER-C and TonyBallioni: just on this question. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 15:06, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

1RR is automatic on pages within the scope, so yes, non-admins may and it does not need to be logged. At the same time, I would not consider a geography article as within the scope and I would not enforce it on this page. 1RR is on articles as a whole, not on content within them. Just my view on how I would interpret the sanctions. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:11, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Likewise, I would consider this article to be outside the scope of the sanctions. Blockchain or cryptocurrencies are only very slightly (if at all) related to Zug at the moment. I've removed the notice -- please don't scare people unless it's necessary. MER-C 15:29, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

My logic for adding it is that it seems the WP:SOAP crusade has arrived on this article as well so I was thinking the sanctions where more related to the pro/anti cryptocurrency SOAP. That said I appreciate the update and removing the tag.

Smallbones, response about the value of cryptocurrency accepted I can't see how that is relevant here. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 21:00, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Crypto Valley

Recreation of previously deleted, with comments still pertinent at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crypto Valley. New article has WP:CITEKILL and refers to obscuring that this is a 1. neologism WP:POVFORK for Zug failing WP:NEO with 2. promo and 3. WP:TOOSOON compared to established ones such as Silicon Valley. Per previous successful deletion and similar minor/obscure promo terms Silicon Spa etc where a redirect is most appropriate. Widefox; talk 12:20, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

• Merge per above. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 17:48, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per the 1st AfD. The term is too obscure to merge/redirect to a specific locality. I've started another: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crypto Valley (2nd nomination). K.e.coffman (talk) 00:43, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

See below. Widefox; talk 04:25, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• Delete rather than redirect. It's an obscure, promotional nickname and unlikely search term. buidhe (formerly Catrìona) 13:20, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Unlikely in what way? It's not slang, is used in multiple RS, has 1/4M Ghits ("crypto valley") including gold standard sources like [3] BBC, [4] BBC, and [5] Business Insider. We have many other precedents List of technology centers#Places with "Silicon" names. It is a valid link used in one article. A redirect to the section of Zug about a non-notable subtopic seems more useful than search and is WP:CHEAP. (ps User:Buidhe your sig doesn't have separate both links) Widefox; talk 04:13, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Referencing

Hello there, I am new to Wikipedia. I have added content to the Economy section and was a little unsure of the exact referncing to use. The two references are [19] and [20] in the footnotes list. So, if someone could check them that would be great. Thanks.

Ties to Russian economy particularly Putin and his allies

Zug has become inexplicably intertwined with the Russian economy and has been in the spotlight for not executing sanctions against the assets of sanctioned oligarchs which are found in Zug. These close ties to Moscow, and its unwillingness or impotence to cut them has put Zug in a very uncomortable spotlight which ought to be mentioned. 178.4.234.161 (talk) 06:55, 13 July 2022 (UTC)