Talk:Zwi Migdal

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Xx236 in topic mainly from Warsaw, Poland  ?

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there is a French article whom I have just published on Wikipedia under the title “Zwi Migdal”. I do not have competences to translate it --82.245.95.207 15:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)Reply


The article says:

"Originally called Warsaw Jewish Mutual Aid Society, the organization changed its name to Zwi Migdal on May 7th, 1906, when the Polish Embassy made an official complaint to the Argentinian authorities regarding the use of the name Warsaw."

This is clearly not true; there was no Polish Embassy in Argentina in 1906, since there was no Poland: that country had been partitioned between Germany, Russia and Austria-Hungary, and would only be revived after World War I.

It is true, but the year was 1927.--Geewhiz (talk) 22:19, 20 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

My work

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This group is new to me, but I'm trying to add info from academic sources. I've found less on their activities in Argentina than I would have liked, hence that part is just about their use in Anti-Semitic literature, but maybe others will have better luck. They seem to have been quite extensively studied with even Jorge Luis Borges investigating them according to one source, which I don't think I used.--T. Anthony (talk) 11:17, 6 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

I now see there were more extensive earlier versions. You may just return to those if you prefer.--T. Anthony (talk) 11:21, 6 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Only Jewesses?

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It's not clear in the article if the women were always Jewesses? Was it so? --Error (talk) 17:55, 11 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yarfitz 2009 cites estimates which approach as much as a half of Buenos Aires prostitutes at some time in first third of 20th cent. Yarfitz 2009 also on the difficulty of using nationality data in municipal registration and police records. "Guy’s demographic analysis estimates that prostitutes who had emigrated from Russia, Romania, and the Austrio-Hungarian Empire, of whom the vast majority would have been Jewish, made up 36 percent of registered prostitutes between 1889 and 1901, and 48.6 percent in 1934, far outnumbering their relative proportions in the broader population.[23]" Perhaps stated in earlier versions? Yohananw (talk) 00:38, 16 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Historical background, causes?

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Need to cite source on socio-political, demographic historical background to Zwi Migdal crime syndicate. (On the population explosion, Eastern European pogroms, poverty, etc.) Such trafficking and sex industry is part of human underhistory.

The ref to anonymous student ppt synopsis of Guy's book (Nov 2006, http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/guy60/History534.08/WhiteSlavery.ppt) is deleted. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research (Unless your own research got published, seriously, verifiably, by qualified forum or source or authority. Not self-posted ppt.)

The 1991 book by the historian Donna J. Guy, Sex and Danger in Buenos Aires: Prostitution, Family, and Nation in Argentina, is much recommended and cited in articles. -Yohananw (talk) 00:28, 16 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

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mainly from Warsaw, Poland  ?

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Sex Trafficking in Postcolonial Literature is about literature, not about facts. As far as I know many women came from Galicja and Bukowina. Xx236 (talk) 10:17, 21 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Can you supply me with a source Xx236? Thanks GizzyCatBella (talk) 00:34, 22 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
Der Spiegel Eastern Europe and Russia http://www.spiegel.de/einestages/juedische-prostitution-in-suedamerika-leidensweg-der-weissen-sklavinnen-a-951189.html Xx236 (talk) 07:18, 22 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
La Galicia austral: la inmigración gallega en la Argentina by Xosé Manoel Núñez Seixas Poland and HungaryXx236 (talk) 07:23, 22 March 2019 (UTC)Reply