Template:Did you know nominations/23rd Street (Manhattan)
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:11, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
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23rd Street (Manhattan)
edit... that the structures along 23rd Street in Manhattan, New York City, range from art galleries and theaters to skyscrapers and expensive residential units?Sources: Too many to quote, but art galleries, theaters, skyscrapers (1, 2), and expensive real estate (1, 2, 3). In the "Description" and "Economy" sections.- ALT1:
... that New York City's 23rd Street contains an eclectic mix of structures, from art galleries and theaters to skyscrapers and expensive residential units?Sources: See above - ALT2:
... that at various points, New York City's 23rd Street contained the city's largest residential complex, the world's largest hotel, and the world's tallest skyscraper?Sources: (1) London Terrace is the residential complex. The source is the NY Times (1988): "It was the largest apartment development ever built in New York City". (2) Fifth Avenue Hotel is the hotel. The source is The Encyclopedia of New York City (2010), p. 442. (3) The Metropolitan Life Tower is the world's tallest building. The source is the NY Times (1996): "The Metropolitan Life Tower, the tallest in the world when it was built in 1909".
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- Reviewed: Tsamma juice
Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 15:14, 21 March 2018 (UTC).
Article passed GA yesterday, no copyvio concerns. I like ALT2, but I'll have to AGF on the Fifth Avenue Hotel source because I'm not seeing an obvious web hit for it being the world's largest, though online sources do seem to go on about the elevators a lot. I've got Template:Did you know nominations/Tsamma juice still open if you're looking for a QPQ. I think it would be nice to give Beyond My Ken credit for doing quite a bit of work on the article, though I seem to recall he's got an aversion to anything reward-related like GAs and DYKs. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:42, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
- Good memory, Ritchie333, you are correct, but I won't beef about whatever decision you make. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:01, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Ritchie333: For the record, the Encyclopedia of New York City says on page 442, "The hotel, at the time the largest in the world, could accommodate 800 guests". That was in the 1850s, though, so I'm not all that excited about a hotel with an 800-guest capacity. Anyway, I've done a QPQ for your article.@Beyond My Ken:, I've added you to the credits. I did notice your dislike of DYK/GA credits, which is why I didn't add you at first, but I hope you won't mind that you're credited now. epicgenius (talk) 13:24, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
- All is good. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:45, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
I pulled this from the queue because "the world's tallest skyscraper" mentioned in the hook is not on 23rd street, it's on the corner of Madison Avenue and 24th, according to both the given source and, it appears, Google maps. Gatoclass (talk) 14:10, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: That's weird, I walk by that building every day and I could've sworn that it took up the block between Park, Madison, 23rd, and 24th. The source itself said,
In 1893 the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company moved into its first building at the northeast corner of 23d Street and Madison Avenue. [...] The company later expanded with successive sections of matching design running down 23d Street and around the block onto 24th Street, for a total of six buildings. In 1905 Metropolitan Life bought the southeast corner of 24th Street and Madison Avenue and announced plans for a 560-foot tower, designed by the LeBrun firm.
But it looks like the tower itself is at the northwest corner of that block (Madison and 24th) so I guess that 23rd Street can't technically claim to have the world's tallest skyscraper.How about this? epicgenius (talk) 16:51, 28 April 2018 (UTC)- ALT3:... that New York City's 23rd Street once contained the city's largest residential complex and the world's largest hotel?
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... that New York City's 23rd Street once contained the city's largest residential complex and the world's largest hotel, as well as one side of the world's tallest building?
- @Gatoclass: That's weird, I walk by that building every day and I could've sworn that it took up the block between Park, Madison, 23rd, and 24th. The source itself said,
- ALT4 looks WP:OR to me, and I can't imagine how one would verify something like that. So I guess it will have to be ALT3, if you're happy to go with that one. Gatoclass (talk) 19:56, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
- ALT3 sounds good. By the way, Google Maps shows that the base of this building abuts 23rd Street. I suppose I was half right about that, then. epicgenius (talk) 21:38, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
- ALT4 looks WP:OR to me, and I can't imagine how one would verify something like that. So I guess it will have to be ALT3, if you're happy to go with that one. Gatoclass (talk) 19:56, 28 April 2018 (UTC)