Template:Did you know nominations/AAA When Worlds Collide

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 09:33, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

AAA When Worlds Collide

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... that AAA When Worlds Collide was the last time Art Barr would wrestle as he died 17 days later?

ALT1:... that AAA When Worlds Collide led to both Eddy Guerrero and Art Barr being shaved bald after a match?
Reviewed: Quid Pro Quo review of Lalaban Ako Para Sa Pilipino

5x expanded by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 18:43, 28 June 2015 (UTC).

Length, date, hook (for ALT1 only), and QPQ verified. At this point, I would approve ALT1. My concern with the original hook is the math. If he died on the 23rd and the show took place on the 6th, I'm only counting 17 days. Unless my math is wrong, I would prefer to see this changed in the article's "Aftermath" section before the DYK is posted (at which point I think either hook would work well). GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:57, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

man math is hard. Fixed it, great catch on that one, thanks. MPJ -Fiesta Triplemania 13:22, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I came by to promote this but found that the article needed a thorough copyedit, which I did. For an encyclopedia article, it is unnecessarily and overly detailed about every move that the wrestlers made during their matches, and I think the description should be cut down considerably. Earwig's Copyvio Detector is showing a high likelihook of copyvios from numerous sources, and I think each one should be checked before this goes through. Two of the paragraphs under Background lack at least one cite, per DYK rules. I would also like to know if the show name is usually italicized, as it is for movies? Yoninah (talk) 01:14, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

@Yoninah: - Looking at the copyvio I do not actually see anything other than where it's 3-4 words that are the same, often the name of the event, the wrestlers and in one case the quote pulled from the article (properly cited). Looking at the comparisons there are not blocks of text or even actual sentences that are identical, yes they use the same words here and there but that's not the same as copying it. But by all means check them all. Thank you for the copy edits, always appreciated. Most of the matches save the tag hair match are not really move by move at all for the matches. For the hair match, it is the most well known match of the show, giving it a little extra prominence and thus a little extra attention. I put down a citation for the statement that was tagged with "needs citation". MPJ -Viva Esfinge 01:59, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
And I missed a question, sorry. No English PPV names are usually not italicized in the pro wrestling manual of style. MPJ -Viva Esfinge 03:01, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Alright so I went through the top article that popped on the copyvio list to see what was triggering it. Link 1 - From PW Torch, the following phrases were highighted in the article as also appearing in the Wiki article (I have omitted any repeated phrases)

Pro Wrestling Torch
When Worlds Collide
In Wrestling History
November 6, 1994
Eddie Guerrero, and
style of wrestling and
to the Torch poll (Note: was quoted with attribution)
the main event
Konnan in a
Tons of activity outside the cage, in–ring psychology, and intense fan heat made up for a largely mediocre athletic performance by the two men (Note:direct quote in article with attribution)
The highlight of the
El Hijo del Santo
after the match
and the match
Chris Cruise and
they were not
out of the show
the show. The
a dark match
the start of the
the wrestling contained on this card impressed those responding to the Torch poll. The (Note: Direct quote with attribution)
with a low
the Los Angeles Sports
announcer, Arturo Rivera
all four men
Rey Misterio Jr.
on the top rope
over the top rope and
out of the
to the floor
with a low
of his own
down the aisle
to the ring and
down with a
after the match
on the show
between the two
was billed
as one of
Parka and Estrada
in their corner
up in the
entered the ring
outside the ring as La Parka
out of the ring. Santana moved and
El Hijo del Santo
Santo and Guerrero
to end the fall
the second fall
tried to pin
the third fall
the United States
camel clutch on
with a double dive through the ropes to the floor
in the ring while
rolled up Guerrero
As a result
match of the night
each other’s hair
Konnan in a
Konnan came to the ring with the IWC World
the UWA Double Power Cup
After a few
Konnan dropped Aguayo
into the cage
Konnan began to
came on the
Konnan began
Konnan and Aguayo
on the top of the cage
Referee Pepe Casas
into the cage. At
ran to ringside
of his own
the top of the cage, Cien Caras
him from the
climbed the cage
at the end

Hardly what I would call plagiarism - two articles covering the same events only has a few bits and pieces in common. I did not want to go through the rest here, but it's the same problems. So to me I do not see the need to edit the text to not state "Referee Pepe Casas" or "El Hijo del Santo" etc. But I am always open to learning something new, if the results above ARE indicative of copyright violations please do let me know. MPJ -Viva Esfinge 23:56, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

I agree that the text matches do not constitute plagiarism. Furthermore, the only paragraph that is uncited is basic information about the format of professional wrestling. There are no concerns that should be holding up this nomination. It is good to go. GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:30, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, @GaryColemanFan:, for rechecking and verifying that this is ready for the main page. My concerns have been addressed. Restoring tick per your review. Yoninah (talk) 13:55, 23 July 2015 (UTC)