Template:Did you know nominations/AdventHealth North Pinellas
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by RoySmith talk 16:44, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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AdventHealth North Pinellas
- ... that AdventHealth does not own AdventHealth North Pinellas, instead they lease it from the city of Tarpon Springs?
- ALT1: ...that there was a lawsuit against Tarpon Springs over fees that were due from the Tarpon Springs Hospital Foundation which leases Helen Ellis Memorial Hospital? Source: https://tampabay.com/archive/1995/10/21/hospital-s-foundation-goes-to-court-over-fees-avoidning-eviction/
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Created by Catfurball (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Catfurball (talk) 23:59, 9 May 2024 (UTC).
A new hook is needed here as the current one doesn't seem to meet WP:DYKINT. It does not appear to be "hooky", or a hook that would attract attention from non-specialist audiences. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:37, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I have added a seconded hook. Catfurball (talk) 18:56, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not a fan of ALT1 either, but that's the least of my problems with this page, Catfurball. This article, as it is now, is the example of WP:PROSELINE that should be preserved to tell people what proseline is and how to avoid it. Every single paragraph or clause beyond the lead begins with a date—59 of them in all—making for an awfully repetitive read. You can write articles on topics like this that are not proselines; I've done TV stations (WEDU, WFTV, WTVJ just in Florida alone) that have similar long-time-series information. I'd love to assist in giving you pointers as to how to set up more natural section heading dividers and how to vary your sentence structure. Right now, I would not want Main Page viewers to see this article in its present structure. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:50, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Since you do not like my work I withdraw my nomination. Catfurball (talk) 15:34, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Catfurball: It is not that I "do not like your work"; in fact, you've put a lot of effort in here. It is that there is a major issue with the way the page is written. You have the referencing and content, but the article prose needs to be reorganized. If you would like advice, my talk page and email are always open, and I would be open to assisting as well. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: I have done some reorganization of the article. Know for the hook that is problemly the only one that I can think of at this time, unless if you think that one of the notable patients can be used as a hook. Catfurball (talk) 20:49, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Catfurball: It is not that I "do not like your work"; in fact, you've put a lot of effort in here. It is that there is a major issue with the way the page is written. You have the referencing and content, but the article prose needs to be reorganized. If you would like advice, my talk page and email are always open, and I would be open to assisting as well. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Since you do not like my work I withdraw my nomination. Catfurball (talk) 15:34, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've come up with a third hook (ALT2), which will probably cause enough mild concern to encourage the reader to check out this article.
- ALT2: ...that AdventHealth North Pinellas has been issued three mandatory evacuation orders since 2017? Sources: #1: https://www.wfla.com/hurricane-irma/florida-hospital-north-closing-moving-patients/ | #2: https://baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2022/10/21/adventhealth-ian-evacuation | #3: https://www.tampafp.com/adventhealth-north-pinellas-evacuating-hospital-due-to-hurricane-idalia/ 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 01:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC) [subsequently edited formatting of this comment 01:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)]
@Catfurball: Much to whinge about here I'm afraid. Aside from the fact that significant proseline issues remain, there are several {{clarify}} tags in the article, which this can't run with, several WP:CLUMPs in the article, which would deserve also-obstructive {{clump}} tags, the lead fails to properly summarise the rest of the article and would deserve {{lead too short}}, and the sectioning needs some attention per MOS:OVERSECTION. A robust copyedit wouldn't go amiss either. You have a good offer of help from Sammi Brie and I suggest that you grab it with both hands.--Launchballer 09:50, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
