Template:Did you know nominations/Afsarwala Tomb

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:24, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Afsarwala Tomb

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Afsarwala Tomb

~~... that the Afsarwala tomb (pictured) contains the tomb of an officer whose identity is not known?~~

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wildlife of Nigeria

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 05:14, 27 May 2019 (UTC).

Comments - QPQ needs to be done - There's no source for the hook, so that would need to be added. I'm happy with the hook, however. Meets length, copyvio and other checks. Add source and QPQ before passing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:18, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: Inline citation has been added. QPQ done. RRD (talk) 04:45, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

I assume this is the source? That's fine then. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:22, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't find the hook hooky. Anything built 1,000 years ago is bound not to have proper identification. Also, the word "tomb" is repeated in the hook, and the ending could be compressed into "an unidentified officer". Yoninah (talk) 20:29, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

@Yoninah: I think its hooky enough that the place is named "Afsarwala" after the "officer" whose identity is actually not known. Maybe we can tweek the hook as below:

ALT1: ~~... that the Afsarwala tomb (pictured) gets its name from the corrupted Persian version of the word "officer", although the identity of the officer whose tomb it houses is unknown?~~

§§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:32, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

@Dharmadhyaksha: you're right, and that it is much better hook wording! Can we change the last "tomb" to "grave"? Yoninah (talk) 10:04, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes! Thanks for that word. ALT2 is here. @Lee Vilenski: if you can review Alt2 then it would be great. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 10:30, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that the Afsarwala tomb (pictured) gets its name from the corrupted Persian version of the word "officer", although the identity of the officer whose grave it houses is unknown?

Thank you, Dharmadhyaksha, ALT2 is a great hook. Now I looked at the source to verify it, and see that the source doesn't identify the occupant of the tomb as an officer, but "the one who raised it" as an officer. Yoninah (talk) 12:45, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes! You are right. However, as you earlier said, the identity problem seems to remain here. I found out another source which says the monument maybe named after the officer who is buried in it. I have also modified the article to mention both the possibilities. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:46, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Any updates on this? @Yoninah, Lee Vilenski, and Royroydeb: -§§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:35, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

@Dharmadhyaksha: Thank you for your work on the article. I edited the article again for English grammar. Now we need a new hook. Do you have an idea, or should I suggest one? Has Royroydeb abandoned this nomination? Yoninah (talk) 23:13, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

@Yoninah: I dont have idea of any different hook. If you can suggest then please do. @Royroydeb: seems to be on-off wiki these days. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:36, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Without the nominator, we don't have a nomination. Marking for closure, though if Royroydeb shows up, we can certainly proceed. Yoninah (talk) 00:59, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

@Yoninah:

ALT2:... that unlike other Islamic buildings of the 16th century India, the Afsarwala mosque contains only one dome? RRD (talk) 15:06, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

@Royroydeb: thanks for ALT2. But the source doesn't confirm the statement "Unlike other buildings". It just says there's one dome. Yoninah (talk) 21:28, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

@Yoninah:

ALT3:~~... that the World Heritage Site of Afsarwala tomb is either said to be built by an officer or is said to house the tomb of an unknown officer?~~
ALT4:~~... that the historian Ram Nath believes that the World Heritage Site of Afsarwala tomb contains themes which are replicas of previous mosques?~~ RRD (talk) 09:06, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

@Royroydeb: thank you for the ALTs, though neither of them is hooky enough for the image slot. And it's a good image. What do you think about adding a little mystery to the hook?
ALT5: ~~... that the name of the Afsarwala tomb (pictured) translates as "Officer's tomb", but no one knows who is buried inside?~~ Yoninah (talk) 23:36, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

@Yoninah:. ALT 5 is good. RRD (talk) 09:16, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. Let's get someone to review ALT5. Pinging @Dharmadhyaksha:. Yoninah (talk) 10:48, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Well, someone must know who is buried inside, just not anyone living. I like the term "unknown occupant" here. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:56, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: do you mean:
ALT5a: ... that the name of the Afsarwala tomb (pictured) translates as "Officer's tomb", but the occupant is unknown? Yoninah (talk) 14:00, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Indeed. I'd sign off on that. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: Great. So could you add a tick? Yoninah (talk) 15:29, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

no worries. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:35, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. Yoninah (talk) 17:05, 1 August 2019 (UTC)