- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:21, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
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Alfredo Hueck
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that Venezuelan film editor and director Alfredo Hueck became interested in the industry after his older brother made him learn to plug in a Betamax?"Conoce al director de cine de Paquete #3 Alfredo Hueck". Cerveza Zulia (in European Spanish). 2015-06-09. Retrieved 2020-02-03.
- Reviewed: Ronald Grossarth-Maticek
- Comment: Hook suggestions welcome!
Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 02:54, 3 February 2020 (UTC).
I could probably assume good faith for the Spanish-language sources, but generally the article reads like promotional material riddled with peacocky language instead of an encyclopedic entry. The sources I can read seem problematic too, e.g. this entry is not significant coverage of Hueck by any means -- he is merely listed as editor, so it would be as good as simply linking to the movie's IMDb page... Other links like the indiegogo and vimeo ones similarly do not establish notability. I would recommend that we do away with such links Cheers Kingoflettuce (talk) 11:42, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- Really? I wrote it as a career overview, one that I thought was a bit weak but good for DYK. Not all sources need to have sigcov nor establish notability, you've just cherrypicked. There's no reason why his main coverage being in Spanish means he's not notable. Those sources you want to get rid of are sourcing things, would you rather it have ref tags? Hollywood Reporter is more RS than IMDb, you know.
Someone following DYK criteria to review, please. Kingsif (talk) 19:47, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- Afraid you are very much misunderstanding/mischaracterising whatever I have said, Kingsif. I never once said that the "main coverage being in Spanish means he's not notable"; in fact, I was willing to assume good faith! Your Hollywood Reporter "citation" is pointless and doesn't establish an iota of notability. Anybody who understands notability guidelines will agree... As for the stuff I can read and fully understand, I maintain that there is still far too much fluff for this to run. Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:30, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
- There hasn't been any comments here since February, a review is still needed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
New enough, long enough. Hook cited, however, the hook is rather bland and should be redone. perhaps include the rest of the information in the sentence. Prose is clunky and needs to be copy edited. The lead is very short. --evrik (talk) 05:24, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- I've expanded the lead a little and will copy edit later. I wonder about the hook - the rest of the sentence would make it long, and would explain away the mystery and quirkiness. Any other suggestions? Kingsif (talk) 16:04, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Alt1 ... that Venezuelan film editor and director Alfredo Hueck became interested in film after learning how to set up his family's Betamax player? --evrik (talk) 20:43, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- ALT1 sounds better and the article looks a lot less promotional. The issue right now is that the paragraph that the source referencing ALT1 appears not at the end of the sentence itself (which is actually a bit long and could probably use a copyedit), but the paragraph that includes it. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I also see how evrik's alt1 is an improvement; added the ref and edited the paragraph. Kingsif (talk) 18:04, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. This is almost good to go, my concern is that ALT1's source is down right now and I can't access it. I'm willing to assume good faith for the content, but I think it would be a good idea to include an archive link to allow for easier DYK verification. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:01, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I think we should be good to go now. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
