Template:Did you know nominations/Anthea Butler

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:40, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Anthea Butler

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... that in her 2021 book White Evangelical Racism, professor of religion Anthea Butler called American Evangelicalism a pro-Trump, "nationalistic political movement"? Source: [1]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lay Kay Kaw

Created by AFreshStart (talk). Self-nominated at 15:35, 20 December 2021 (UTC).

Interesting person and viewpoints, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The hook is fine. Do we know when she was born where? If not that, when she studied? Any other info about her as a person? - In the lead, I don't think we need "Before becoming an educator". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:57, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Can't seem to find out much more information, sorry. Google snippets says 6 August 1956 for her birthday, but I can't find any reliable sources for that. This Daily Pennsylvanian source (mentioned in the article) just mentions that she is born and raised in Texas, [and] studied theology at Fuller Theological Seminary. Her CV (hosted at the Africana Studies at University of Pennsylvania) it mentions her education: Ph.D. Religion, Vanderbilt University, 2001 M.A. Religion, Vanderbilt University, 2000 // M.A. Theology, Fuller Theological Seminary, 1995 // B.A. Marketing, University of Houston At Clear Lake, 1983. Not sure how reliable CVs are for Wikipedia, but this discussion seems to think so, so I'll be bold and add this ASAP. —🎄☃️❄️ Season's greetings from AFreshStart (talk) ❄️☃️🎄 22:37, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

fine with me, thank you - I somehow thought she was much younger, perhaps just because the article is short ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:08, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Comment to @AFreshStart and Gerda Arendt: I'd suggest adding "rather than a religious group" to the hook, to add some wonk and quirk :D theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 23:31, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Sounds good to me! —AFreshStart (talk) 23:46, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

You'd have to word an ALT, to make life easier for tje prep builder, but I prefer it as it is, to the point. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:28, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

added an ALT—my thing with the original is that animosity towards the religious right in the United States isn't known for its scarcity, so I kind of want to try and drive a wedge between this quote and your standard-issue tweet about american evangelicals. arguing that it's not a religious group at core is very different from just arguing that it has nationalistic tendencies. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 11:26, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that in her 2021 book White Evangelical Racism, professor of religion Anthea Butler called American Evangelicalism a pro-Trump "nationalistic political movement", rather than a religious group?

theleekycauldron, I moved your ALT1 down here, - nobody - not even the nominator - should change the top nomination after it has been replied to ;) - Here you go:

I approve it, but find the original much better, because what the ALT says additionally doesn't enlighten us about the subject. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:29, 5 January 2022 (UTC)