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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 00:31, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

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Antimonumento +43

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Created by Tbhotch (talk). Self-nominated at 05:46, 3 September 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks like a good article, but there are several things that need to be addressed:

  • Earwig's finds a possible copyright violation, and it's because of the original Spanish quote, which is currently as a note in the article. Do we need it, or can we just assume good faith in your translation skills? I've honestly not much experience with such issues, and would ask a senior editor if you want to keep the Spanish text.
  • Because of that, the sculpture became the first of its kind in Mexico – isn't the "because of that" superflous here? I find the sentence to read a little weird.
  • After the subsequent installation of other unnamed anti-monuments, the Antimonumento +43 began to be called like that because of its physical characteristics, although it is also known by other names – again, not really clear: If all were unnamed, how did the others cause it to be named, and "because of its physical characteristics"? And what are the other names it is known by?
  • Demonstrators added the slogan of those seeking justice for the case – where to? Is it that text visible at the bottom of the picture (my limited Spanish skills and intuition suggest that)?
  • and subsequently installed a complement, a concrete turtle – again, where? Is the turtle nearby?
  • where they held an intercity bus driver – what does "held" mean here? Held at gunpoint?
  • were holding an event that would be affected by the students – does this imply "negatively affected"? Like, the students' protests were 'annoying' the mayor? It's not clear as written.
  • They handed out flyers titled "+43, an anti-monument for memory and justice". – the paragraph ending with this is not cited (or, if it is in the same ref as the quote, that's currently not clear).

There might be other minor things that I haven't noticed yet. None of these are terrible, but without adjustments and clarity on the copyright concerns this can't run. –LordPeterII (talk) 20:00, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

@LordPeterII: I don't know how you have concluded that the addition of a long copyrighted quote qualifies as a WP:Copyright infringement issue. For the rest of the review, I'll fix it no later than the next Thursday. (CC) Tbhotch™ 15:52, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
@LordPeterII: All changes done. The usage of the Spanish quotation is covered by MOS:QUOTEFOREIGN. I removed it for the DYK purposes, though. (CC) Tbhotch™ 15:52, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
@Tbhotch: Maybe you are right about the quote... wasn't sure about it. If you think it is useful, I wouldn't oppose bringing it back. Most issues fixed. I still feel they deprived an intercity bus driver is just as unclear as "held", and I have not heard "deprived" being used in this way. But I gather it means they more or less abducted the bus, and forced the bus driver to drive the bus where they wanted it? Still, I'm not holding back the nomination over a minor wording issue, and I reckon it will be fixed soon enough.
Approve (AGF for foreign language source). –LordPeterII (talk) 15:47, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
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