Template:Did you know nominations/Aptostichus angelinajolieae

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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:53, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Aptostichus angelinajolieae

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Female specimen

5x expanded by Surtsicna (talk). Self nominated at 14:48, 28 June 2013 (UTC).

  • Comment: I am fully aware that Angelina Jolie is not venomous (though someone might beg to differ), but the hook is much hookier this way while still perfectly accurate, since "Angelina Jolie" is an adjective to the noun "Spider". Surtsicna (talk) 14:58, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment: I think you're just missing the word "THE". It needs it to make grammatical sense and for it to sound right (without it, it sounds like the actress and the trapdoor spider inject their pray...); it doesn't detract from it's "hookier"-ness to add "THE"--Rushton2010 (talk) 15:04, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Pardon me, English is not my first language and I haven't yet grasped that common names sometimes (or almost always?) require the definite article. In fact, I was so unsure that I added it and then removed it from the article itself. Anyway, I took the liberty to add the definite article into the original hook, to make it easier for the closing administrator. Surtsicna (talk) 15:34, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

The article still needs a review. Surtsicna (talk) 18:05, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Sorry, I don't think either article qualifies for a 5x expansion. The Angelina Jolie has expanded from 1410B to 5066B (needed: 7050B) and the Bono's Joshua Tree Trapdoor Spider from 1439B to 5029B (needed: 7195B). Ashwin147 (talk) 03:41, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
  • You are calculating it wrong. Please see the "Long enough" criterium. Only prose counts, meaning that the first article went from 292 characters to 1986 characters (which is a 6.8x expansion) and the second from 162 to 1849 (which is a 11x expansion). Infoboxes, categories, lists, references and tables are ignored. Surtsicna (talk) 09:22, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
  • This is good to go. Both articles have been expanded within time-frame (and "DYK check" agrees), all is within policies and the image is correctly licensed. Good to go. --Rushton2010 (talk) 12:57, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Surtsicna, I'm still getting my head around things in wikipedia. Calculating length has been one of the issues that's flummoxed me for a bit now, being not the most IT savvy of people. I'm sorry for the bother. But the article's good on copyvio, newness and is well cited. Cheers! Ashwin147 (talk) 16:11, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
No problem whatsoever! I just hope you did not trouble yourself with expanding your DYK articles many times more than necessary. I, for one, am not sure I could find a word more about these two spider species. Surtsicna (talk) 16:26, 29 June 2013 (UTC)