Template:Did you know nominations/Bob Zellner

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 22:57, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Bob Zellner

Created by Eddie891 (talk). Nominated by A. C. Santacruz (talk) at 16:38, 5 September 2021 (UTC).

  • Perhaps ALT1? Eddie891 Talk Work 02:14, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
  • ALT1 ... that civil rights activist Bob Zellner was arrested at least 18 times and severely beaten on several occasions for his activism?
  • A. C. Santacruz, typically the nom responds to review comments regarding the hooks. Do you have thoughts on the matter? Eddie891 Talk Work 22:38, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - ALT0 yes. In relation to ALT1 and the "arrested at least 18 times" bit, the in-line source is to a talk by Zellner and Barry Alexander Brown with the latter saying "Bob went to jail 18 times, and he’s got five times as many stories about when he didn’t go to jail". I'm not sure that's the best source. On a quick search I found this article which I think would do the trick but I'm wondering if any better/additional sources could be found.
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough and meets other policy requirements (very interesting subject!). Have checked Earwig and no concerns there. Well-sourced. I prefer ALT1 (subject to minor sourcing point noted above) (and ALT0 could potentially be reworked to be a bit more 'hooky', as it's not immediately clear why him being the first white secretary is of interest to a reader not familiar with the SNCC). QPQ done. Just needs at least one reliable source cited in-line to support the "at least 18 arrests" bit of ALT1. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 01:30, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Found one source, but it mentions 25 arrests by summer of 1963. I edited the article accordingly, and thus propose:
ALT2 ... that civil rights activist Bob Zellner was arrested at least 25 times and severely beaten on several occasions for his activism?
Let me know what you think Chocmilk03 A. C. Santacruz Talk 06:53, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Great work! And the relevant page of the source is available on Google Books which is helpful. I briefly considered whether you could make it "at least 26 arrests" since we know he was also arrested in 2013 but 25 is a nice round number and it's "at least" so I reckon let's leave as is. ALT2 good to go. :) Thanks, Chocmilk03 (talk) 07:54, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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