- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:46, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
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Bryan Burnham
edit...that University of Tulsa football player Bryan Burnham suffered a season-ending torn ACL injury during the first game of the season, but the NCAA declined to give him another year of eligibility?
ALT1:... that Canadian football receiver Bryan Burnham scored a touchdown in his professional debut with the BC Lions?ALT2:... that gridiron football player Bryan Burnham has suffered a serious arm infection, a torn ACL injury, and a lacerated spleen?ALT3:... that the Tulsa Golden Hurricane was the only NCAA Division I school that recruited American football player Bryan Burnham?- ALT4:... that gridiron football player Bryan Burnham suffered a torn ACL to end his college career and a lacerated spleen to end his first professional season in the Canadian Football League?
- Reviewed: Less than five DYKs...QPQ not needed.
Created by BU Rob13 (talk) and Tavix (talk). Nominated by Tavix (talk) at 21:34, 15 June 2015 (UTC).
New article is long enough and nominated in timely fashion. Written neutrally, sufficiently cited, and no paraphrasing concerns detected. Choosing ALT1 to avoid negative light on NCAA (it can do that on its own). Meets QPQ exemption. A minor issue unrelated to the hook, but the article says his debut was in Week 13, which doesn't seem to be directly obvious in the reference, which only says "... Bryan spent the first 11 weeks of the season on the practice roster before making his pro debut versus Toronto on Sep 19/14."—Bagumba (talk) 22:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: I added another source that mentions that he practiced for twelve weeks before that game. You can corroborate this with 2014 BC Lions season, which says that the Toronto game is "week 13." I didn't find a source that mentions both Burnham's highlights and the fact that it was "week 13" and didn't want to add a source that only verified the week. If it's still a problem we could either replace it with the date or actually do that. I understand why you struck the first hook, but I do think his injuries are the most fascinating thing about him. I'm adding an ALT2 to highlight that. Also adding an ALT3 which is directly cited with a source that we haven't had any issues with (just in case). Tavix| Talk 15:55, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- As an aside, I'm using "American football" if the fact is from college, "Canadian football" if the fact is from his pro career, and "gridiron football" if it is both. Tavix| Talk 15:55, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- Just was informed that this article was nominated on my talk page. I have no expertise in the criteria for DYK, so I'll leave this for Tavix to decide if he wants to update his nomination, but I'd suggest emphasizing the season-ending nature of his injuries as the most interesting fact about Bryan Burnham. Many people have had torn ACLs, for instance, but very few have had two major season-ending injuries in back-to-back games. For example:
- "... that gridiron football player Bryan Burnham suffered a torn ACL to end his college career and a season-ending lacerated spleen in his first professional game in the Canadian Football League?" ~ RobTalk 15:24, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- I would agree with that (except the spleen injury happened in his second professional game). Apparently the arm infection was the reason he was redshirted so you could argue that he had three season ending injuries (although he never played a game his true-freshmen year). We could tweak your suggestion to say: "... that gridiron football player Bryan Burnham suffered a torn ACL to end his college career and a lacerated spleen to end his first professional season in the Canadian Football League?" I'll add it as an ALT 4 and we can always tweak it as necessary. BU Rob13 and Bagumba, what do you think? Tavix| Talk 15:46, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Oops! Sorry, I got this article and another I created where there was a season-ending injury in the first game jumbled in my head. Your suggestion is in the spirit of what I was suggesting, yes. ~ RobTalk 15:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13: Great! You can edit the nomination if you think it could be worded better, but I'll just note here that I'm favoring ALT 4 at the moment. DYK is a good way to get exposure to some new articles, so if you have some free time, I'd suggest reading up on the criteria. I looked through your contributions, and didn't see another article that could be nominated at the moment, but it could be good to think about in the future! Tavix| Talk 16:05, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
@Bagumba: Needs another look. Issues addressed. ~ RobTalk 19:42, 25 June 2015 (UTC)- It seems like a new reviewer will be needed. ~ RobTalk 18:54, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay, but I was out on vacation for a while. If ALT4 is desired over ALT1, it needs to be verifiable in the article that the spleen injury occurred in his first pro season in the CFL. It's currently not stated that his first season with BC was also his first pro season.—Bagumba (talk) 06:58, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: Ah, no worries, didn't realize you were on vacation. I would assume that reference #7, which states both that he played in college in 2013 and that his first year with the BC Lions was 2014, verifies that he could not have played in any professional season earlier than 2014. Be sure to check the tabs for Highlights and College. Do you disagree? ~ RobTalk 09:44, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
