- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by PanydThe muffin is not subtle 01:05, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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Carrie Pringle
edit- ... that Carrie Pringle did not appear on the opera stage between 1882 and 2007?
ALT1 ... that rumors say that new girlfriend Carrie Pringle was the reason for the sudden death of married German composer Richard Wagner?( -unsigned edit by User:Douglas Coldwell--Smerus (talk) 11:24, 28 March 2015 (UTC))
- I personally prefer the original as being more of a 'teaser'. Besides, there is no actual evidence that W. and Pringle ever had any relationship, so ALT1 could be construed as misleading (and not exactly citable). But if anyone prefers this slant, I propose ALT2 below.--Smerus (talk) 11:19, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- Tend to agree with Smerus after I got thinking it over and therefore withdraw my ALT1 submission.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:37, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- I personally prefer the original as being more of a 'teaser'. Besides, there is no actual evidence that W. and Pringle ever had any relationship, so ALT1 could be construed as misleading (and not exactly citable). But if anyone prefers this slant, I propose ALT2 below.--Smerus (talk) 11:19, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
ALT2... that there is no evidence that Richard Wagner was killed by an English Flowermaiden? --Smerus (talk) 11:19, 28 March 2015 (UTC)- My turn for second thoughts - I think this ALT3 is punchier than my earlier alternative ALT2 - also (now) uses the form of 'Flowermaiden' in the article as a whole -
- ALT3 ... that there is no evidence that an English Flowermaiden was Richard Wagner's nemesis? --Smerus (talk) 21:04, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Agustina Andrade
Created by Smerus (talk). Self nominated at 09:03, 28 March 2015 (UTC).
Clarifying article on a mysterious person, on good sources, thank you! - Article: I did some copy-editing, revert what you don't like. Please decide for 1) Flowermaiden or 2) Flower Maiden or 3) Flower-maiden consistently, - you have 1) and 2), and Parsifal has 3). If you decide for 1) or 2) please change Parsifal. Still article: the juxtaposition of "she apparently never appeared on the opera stage again. Other members of the family also sought musical professions" made me smile. Last to article: "Controversy" seems not the perfect heading. - Now hook: the original is misleading as saying a "nothing" about her, ALT3 is acceptable, my version of the same is the quote from the article:
- ALT4: ... that the "'English Flowermaiden killed Wagner' story refuses to give up the ghost"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:40, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: thanks for this. OK for convenience I have gone for 'Flowermaiden' throughout and edited 'Parsifal' (and ALT3) accordingly. I would prefer ALT3, (as being all my own work), to ALT4, but I won't weep about it either way :-). The original hook is a 'teaser' as she didn't appear between 'Parsifal' and Jonathan Harvey's opera; it is maybe a bit abstruse but appealed to my warped mentality. I thought about 'Controversy' and agree it's not quite right; therefore have changed the header in the article to 'Wagner's death'. Hope this is maybe OK to pass now. --Smerus (talk) 21:16, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
yes, thank you, - offline sources accepted AGF, - this leaves ALT3 as the only hook. I can't approve my own, and the original is an original statement that would also be true about me (and anybody else) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
