Template:Did you know nominations/Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 11:53, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park, Monuments of Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park, Bawaman Mosque, Jama Masjid, Champaner, Kevada Masjid, Champaner, Lila Gumbaj Ki Masjid, Champaner, Nagina Masjid, Champaner, Kalika Mata Temple, Pavagadh, Pavagadh Hill
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- ... that the Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park contains dozens of monuments, including the Bawaman, Jama (pictured), Kevada, Lila Gumbaj, and Nagina mosques, as well as the Kalika Mata Temple atop Pavagadh Hill?
Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 17:07, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Reviewed: Peter Rouw, William Trousdale, William Robinson (runholder), Siege of Nicaea (727), Reiner Stach, Prostylotermes, Leiden Glossary,Leptasterias polaris, and Leptasterias tenera
- Reviewing--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:29, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- Is {{DYK nompage links}} capped at 8? The ninth link is not showing.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:55, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
All articles were created or began expansions between September 27 and September 30. However, Bawaman Mosque is 1234 characters, Kevada Masjid, Champaner is 1410 characters and Lila Gumbaj Ki Masjid, Champaner is 1390 characters.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:06, 6 October 2012 (UTC)- This issue is now resolved.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:46, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- Also, it seems that Rosiestep (talk · contribs) is uninvolved in Lila Gumbaj Ki Masjid, Champaner.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:12, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- Image is cc 3.0.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:17, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- Looking at the first two citation of Monuments of Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park, I do not feel comfortable that the article content is being properly cited and as a result I am having trouble confirming the hook.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:25, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, Tony, for the observations. Yes, while transferring text and references to Monuments of Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park from UNESCO Heritage Site Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park some references were missed and bibliography of Bombay Gazetteer was also left out. I have now made amends and introduced several references in the lead section of the article. The hook is for nine articles. I could not reply here earlier as it took some time to find additional text to the three articles referred by you above for inadequate length for DYK eligibility. I hope I have done justice to the same now. As regards the image, I am not sure if the license cc 3 is valid or not. In case it is not valid you may plese consider using this image here [1] (File:Kali Temple1.jpg) which is in the info box of Kalika Mata Temple article as an alternative.--Nvvchar. 21:53, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- When I look at the hook, I feel like I should be able to start with this sentence from the LEAD: " The Heritage Trust of Baroda lists 114 monuments in the area of which only 39 monuments are maintained by the Archeological Survey of India, due to limited funding." The citation one sentence later seems to be the one that should WP:V this statement by providing a WP:RS. However, the fact is not in the citation. I will fumble through all the added citations, but they do not seem to be documenting the dozens claimed in this hook.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:51, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- Let me clarify. Ref 13 in the article Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park is also referenced now at ref 6 in Monuments of Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park at the end of the sentence proposed by you for the alternate hook. Unfortunately, the last page of the book opens when the reference is clicked but the texts referred in the articles are on pages 91-93 and 96-97 of this book. Hence, the confusion. The text in the book on page 96 related to the text cited by you reads: "The historic structures fall under the purview of the Archeological Survey of India, which with limited funds, does the best it can to protect and preserve the 39 monuments under its wing (of the 114 identified by the Heritage Trust of Baroda." Keeping your suggestion in view I am proposing an alternate hook as below for your acceptance.--Nvvchar. 02:05, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Alt 1 Hook ... that the Heritage Trust of Baroda lists 114 monuments in the area of which only 39 monuments are maintained by the Archeological Survey of India, due to limited funding, and which include Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park, dozens of monuments, the Bawaman, Jama (pictured), Kevada, Lila Gumbaj, and Nagina mosques, as well as the Kalika Mata Temple atop Pavagadh Hill? "--Nvvchar. 02:05, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- The original hook is cleaner.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:16, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- At Pavagadh Hill "It is part of the Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park, a UNESCO World Heritage Site." is uncited.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:24, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Having trouble verifying Bawaman Mosque based on the citations at the end of the LEAD.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:37, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Traveling. Could not attend to above comments immediately. Now references fixed to Pavagadh Hill and Bawaman Mosque. Thanks.--Nvvchar. 23:59, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Good to go. Still like original hook.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:24, 15 October 2012 (UTC)