Template:Did you know nominations/Church of England Marriage Measure 2008
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:19, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
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Church of England Marriage Measure 2008
edit- ... that the Church of England Marriage Measure 2008 extended the legal right for people to marry in churches that their grandparents married in? Faculty Office
- ALT1:... that despite concerns it would lead to marriage tourism, the Church of England Marriage Measure 2008 led to a 4% increase in Church of England weddings? Telegraph
- Reviewed: John Outhouse
Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 09:18, 3 January 2017 (UTC).
Article meets length (~1600 bytes of readable prose) and timing (newly created on January 1) standards and passed Earwig's tool. I have concerns with both proposed hooks however. ALT1 (and the sentence on which it is based in the article) violates WP:SYNTH as the Telegraph source does not mention marriage tourism and the BBC source is from before the 4% increase happened. There is no sourced relationship between the two parts of the sentence; in fact, they seem rather non sequitur. As an aside, is a 4% increase in weddings year-over-year even statistically significant?
- The primary hook, conversely, is supported by its source. It could use a little copy editing, however. How about:
- ALT2: ... that the Church of England Marriage Measure 2008 gave couples the legal right to get married in any parish where their parents or grandparents were married, but not in any cathedral?
- @Grondemar: If you check the full article, you'll note that the wedding tourism line was in this BBC source, it gives context of there being a concern at the point of introduction but two years later it shows that it actually improved the number of marriages being performed. Futhermore, ALT1 isn't synth because the Telegraph source clearly says "The increase came after the Church of England relaxed its rules through a “marriage measure” introduced in October 2008." The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:36, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- @The C of E: The BBC source was published 1 October 2008. It can't possibly (and doesn't, as far as I can tell) support an increase in the number of marriages two years after the article was published. I agree with what the Telegraph source says, but note it never uses the term "marriage tourism". The problem is that "marriage tourism" could be a cause of the increase in Church of England weddings (more couples getting married in pretty churches instead of secularly) as easily as a "despite". Therefore, unless there is a source showing a negative relationship between "marriage tourism" and the increase in Church of England weddings, I don't see that the provided sources support the point you're trying to make in the DYK hook.
- If you have no objection to ALT2, I consider that one
good to go. –Grondemar 16:07, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Grondemar: If you check the full article, you'll note that the wedding tourism line was in this BBC source, it gives context of there being a concern at the point of introduction but two years later it shows that it actually improved the number of marriages being performed. Futhermore, ALT1 isn't synth because the Telegraph source clearly says "The increase came after the Church of England relaxed its rules through a “marriage measure” introduced in October 2008." The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:36, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
