Template:Did you know nominations/Circassians in Jordan
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by TheAwesomeHwyh (talk) 19:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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Circassians in Jordan
- ... that Circassian settlers in Jordan founded modern Amman in 1878? Source: Hanania (2018), p. 1, "Amman was once a vibrant city with a long history of continued settlement. By the mid-fourteenth century, the city succumbed to plague and depopulation, leaving Amman devoid of settlement until the immigration of Circassians in the late nineteenth century. Modern Amman was developed as part of the Ottoman Empire’s modernisation efforts in the late nineteenth century." The specific year 1878 and the details of the Circassian settlement from that year onward is supported by Hanania (2018) on pages 2–3, in addition to the existing sources in article, Rogan and Shami.
- Reviewed: Augustine Magdalena Waworuntu
Created by Sextus Caedicius (talk) and Al Ameer son (talk). Nominated by Al Ameer son (talk) at 18:08, 3 July 2020 (UTC).
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- Other problems: - the hook is hooky enough but the statement that "Circassians founded Amman" seems mildly inaccurate or an overstatement and conflicts with Wikipedia's own history of Amman. This might be solved by changing "Circassians founded modern Amman", but I would like to see wording to this effect in a source.
QPQ: - Not done
Overall: The article is well-written and well-sourced — generally a fine piece. The particular page cited in the hook is offline for me, but other pages are cited in other parts of the article, so I AGF but worry about the wording (nb above). Can the nominator/editors give a quote from the book or suggest a ALT hook? (And provide QPQ link?) — AjaxSmack 22:36, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- He also indicated that here.VR talk 13:41, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- @AjaxSmack and Vice regent: I have clarified in the article with new source, and quoted source in hook above. Do I need to make an ALT hook to add the word "modern" before "Amman", or could I just revise the original hook accordingly? QPQ on the way! Al Ameer (talk) 18:34, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- I made it a bit more explicit in the lead. I think just modifying the original hook should be fine.VR talk 20:05, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Vice regent; @AjaxSmack: Modified the hook to read "modern Amman", QPQ now done. --Al Ameer (talk) 18:18, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hook has been modified and confirmed with online source. QPQ done. — AjaxSmack 02:50, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Vice regent; @AjaxSmack: Modified the hook to read "modern Amman", QPQ now done. --Al Ameer (talk) 18:18, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- I made it a bit more explicit in the lead. I think just modifying the original hook should be fine.VR talk 20:05, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- @AjaxSmack and Vice regent: I have clarified in the article with new source, and quoted source in hook above. Do I need to make an ALT hook to add the word "modern" before "Amman", or could I just revise the original hook accordingly? QPQ on the way! Al Ameer (talk) 18:34, 8 July 2020 (UTC)