Template:Did you know nominations/Cultural impact of TikTok

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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by BorgQueen talk 11:05, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Cultural impact of TikTok

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• ... that weight loss content on TikTok has caused shortages of diabetes medication and laxatives? Source:
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Created by Nathan121212 (talk) and Spiderwinebottle (talk). Nominated by Nathan121212 (talk) at 19:46, 5 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Cultural impact of TikTok; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• In very broad strokes the article is DYK-eligible, but I have concerns about this hook. Semaglutide is approved for both diabetes and weight loss, and referring to it exclusively as a "diabetes medication" in this context is misleading. The sources don't imo support that Tiktok is an objectively significant contributor to laxative shortages -- this is a subject for which you want much more solid sourcing than news articles, with much more confident statements of cause and effect (as opposed to the significant other elements these articles mention, such as increased demand by an aging population). In general, I think both this hook and the article's coverage of the subject are questionable at best and misleading at worst. There are other elements that could have a valid hook, such as:
  • ALT1: ... that the influence of TikTok on book sales led the app's parent company to launch its own book publisher?
• I'm not the most enthused by the source on that either, but the content it supports isn't nearly as contentious. Vaticidalprophet 06:33, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

@Vaticidalprophet: thanks for the review. I'll see if I can improve that section of the article. I'm happy to go with your alt hook if that section turns out to be misleading and I have to change it. Will ping you again once I've updated the article. Nathan121212 (talk) 16:32, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

@Vaticidalprophet: I couldn't find more information about the laxative shortage. I think it's best to go with your ALT1. I found a better source about ByteDance's publisher that cites The New York Times, but I can't confirm it as the NYT is paywalled. I did improve the section on semaglutide and would be grateful if you had another look. Nathan121212 (talk) 16:51, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

@Vaticidalprophet: Is this ready to be approved? If not, what needs to happen to get it approved? Z1720 (talk) 01:59, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

I was putting this off, because I read the article again, and unfortunately I'm getting more skeptical about it on each reread. The article is very much focused on PRIMARYNEWS statements of individual Tiktok trends, particularly in the US (it's a strikingly Americentric article for a famously non-American app), with almost no secondary analysis of the app's cultural impact outside the plastic surgery section. Even a very low-effort gscholar search without narrowing down specific keywords or similar shows massive amounts of unused academic sourcing, including a whole book on the subject alongside a cavalcade of journal articles. I respect the effort here and don't mean to demean the creator's work, but the article is using very suboptimal sources for its subject in a way that makes it difficult to recommend putting on the main page. I think this is fixable -- there's a lot of sourcing available! Vaticidalprophet 02:06, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

@Nathan121212 and Spiderwinebottle: Are either of you willing the address the above concerns? Z1720 (talk) 03:24, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

@Z1720: I'll get around to User:Vaticidalprophet's areas for improvements eventually, but I'm currently working on other articles and I don't think I'll get to it soon. Feel free to close the nom. Nathan121212 (talk) 19:46, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Marking as unsuccessful, per Nathan121212's comments above. If someone adopts this in the next few days, this nomination can continue. Otherwise, this can be closed. Z1720 (talk) 19:52, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

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