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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:10, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

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Danish Trade Union Confederation

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  • ... that when the Danish Trade Union Confederation was established in 2019, it brought together 79 unions? Source: "...on 1 January 2019 they merged into FH – the Danish Trade Union Confederation. This giant comprises 79 trade unions representing 1.4 million members." [1]

Created by Warofdreams (talk). Self-nominated at 16:49, 4 February 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - ?
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article is new enough. Length and sourcing are adequate. Article is neutral in tone, and no plagiarism was detected. The hook is reasonably interesting, verified with the source provided, but it is not properly cited inline. The opening paragraph mentions 79 unions, but not the founding date. In the history section, the founding date is mentioned, but not the number of unions, and no citation at the end of that sentence. No photo is used in this nomination, and the union's logo is properly licensed under fair use. QPQ has been completed. A minor adjustment needed to cite the hook, and the nomination will be good to go. Flibirigit (talk) 11:07, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the review! I've updated the article to clarify that the figures are from the federation's formation in 2019, rather than being current. Does that look good to you? Warofdreams talk 20:02, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
The hook is now properly cited. Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 20:31, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
moved from WT:DYK
@Warofdreams:@Flibirigit:@Cwmhiraeth:
Is this the hookiest thing you can say about it? Yoninah (talk) 20:04, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
I am fine with it as is. Flibirigit (talk) 20:11, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
That's nice. A better hook would get more clicks. Yoninah (talk) 20:41, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
What about mentioning that the organization promoted the so-called "Danish model"? That model might sound unusual to many international readers and thus might warrant a mention in the hook. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
I am willing to review other hooks proposed. Flibirigit (talk) 03:10, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that the Danish Trade Union Confederation, Denmark's largest trade union centre, promotes a model where pay and working conditions are negotiated without state involvement?
This could probably be reworded further to remove redundancies, but it's the thought I had in mind. Another option could be a much simpler hook, something like ALT2:"... that the Danish Trade Union Confederation is the largest group of trade unions in Denmark?" or something to that effect, although that's a bit circular. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:12, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
ALT1 is factual and verified, but it not properly cited in the article, as the sentence which includes the second hald of the hook has no citation. Also, the red link needs to be corrected. ALT2 is not worded well, and should wikilink to National trade union center. I suggest using "the country's largest" to avoid repeating Denmark. Flibirigit (talk) 03:06, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm happy with either. ALT1 is covered by the Avisen reference, cited at the end of the short paragraph - loosely translated, "...the organization will work to maintain the Danish model, where working conditions and wages are negotiated outside the state. The organization believes this is crucial to Denmark's prosperity." Warofdreams talk 09:30, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
ALT1 is still not properly cited. The citation(s) must appear directly at the end of the sentence which supports the hook. Rewording the hook is still necessary to remove the red link. Flibirigit (talk) 14:18, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
I am returning this to WP:DYKN until the issues are all sorted out. Yoninah (talk) 13:55, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
  • I am willing to review changes to the hooks as proposed in the conversation above. Flibirigit (talk) 17:19, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT1 is now properly cited. Can anyone suggest a wording to remove the red link? Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 21:14, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
ALT1's link has been revised and now has the correct link, though it still needs a review. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:50, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
ALT1 is approved. Rest of my review as per before. Flibirigit (talk) 16:09, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
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