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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

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David Webber (basketball)

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Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 11:46, 22 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/David Webber (basketball); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • (dropping in to comment) The full context in the source supports the claim: The pressure has been too much for David Webber at times. There were days the younger brother of NBA All-Star Chris Webber didn’t even want to live. “I can remember being in my house after another bad game during my junior year in high school, when I told God not to wake me up in the morning,” David said. “I was praying all night, for hours, saying, ‘God, please don’t wake me up.’ “I felt a lot of pressure and I didn’t feel like I could take it anymore.”
Also suggesting ALT1a, informative but a bit unwieldy: that Basketball Hall of Famer Chris Webber's brother David broke Hall of Famer Larry Bird's single-game scoring record on his college's home court? Hameltion (talk | contribs) 00:06, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
New reviewer needed; Surtscina has not responded. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
I'll take on the review. Legoktm (talk) 06:47, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: See below Legoktm (talk) 07:41, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Blocking issues:

  • I think the suicide sentence is in the wrong section? It's currently under "College career" but the source quotes him as saying, "I can remember being in my house after another bad game during my junior year in high school..." (emphasis mine), so shouldn't it be in the "Early life" section? (2 other editors have already OK'd the sentence so I'm fine with it, but I personally would've preferred to just quote him or the source instead of applying the "suicide" label ourselves).
  • The infobox says he went undrafted in 2002, but that's not mentioned in the "Professional career" section.
  • "Webber attended the October 2002 Sacramento Kings training camp when his brother played for the team" - which brother?

Not blocking issues:

  • "Manciel, who had played with him at Detroit Country Day, matriculated to CMU with him.", The previous sentence discusses Chris, so I think you need to use "David" instead of "him".
  • Why does the "College career" section start with his brother? Seems like that should go after explaining that David joined CMU.
  • "According to the March 2020 update of the Central Michigan Record Book,..." takes the punch out of the fact that he broke Bird's record. I think it would be better phrased as something like: "Webber set the Central Michigan record for McGuirk Arena single-game points (51 vs. Ball State February 24, 2000), breaking the previous arena record set on December 5, 1977, by Larry Bird (45 points). As of the March 2020 update of the Central Michigan Record Book, Webber and Bird hold their records for either team and visiting team players, respectively."
  • Should Cal be called "California"?
  • "He led the MAC in scoring... That season he led Central Michigan in scoring" - isn't that redundant?
    • You are looking at it out of context. "He led the MAC in scoring . . .That season, he led Central Michigan in scoring, rebounding, assists and steals."-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:11, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
  • "to the first worst-to-first first-place finish in MAC history" - it took me multiple tries to figure out what was meant here, I think using "first" in three consecutive words just doesn't work.
  • Him being a teammate with his brother Jason is already explained, does it need to be repeated in "Personal life"?

Hook:

And I did a light copyedit, let me know if you have any issues with that. Legoktm (talk) 07:41, 28 July 2023 (UTC)User talk:Surtsicna

TonyTheTiger see above ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:24, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
Looks good, nice work Tony :) Tick for ALT1b, ALT1a, ALT0 and ALT2 (in that preference order). Legoktm (talk) 17:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)


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