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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:11, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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Death of Andrew Sadek

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  • Reviewed: Armenia–Croatia relations
  • Comment: I didn't expect I'd be nominating this one, just touching it up a bit, but in the course of doing so I found I had to rewrite large chunks of copyvio. We have accepted otherwise ineligible articles for this reason in the past. So, it's up to the reviewer to decided.

    If it is accepted, I'd like it to run on May 1, the one-year anniversary of Sadek's disappearance.

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 02:31, 21 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Previous revision was 6,800 characters. Current revision is 10kb (i.e. ten thousand characters). To reach fivefold, the article should have been 34kb in prose. Will you be able to expand the article further? George Ho (talk) 18:02, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Unless there are major developments in the case very soon, I don't think so. Howrever, I thought that initial size doesn't matter when you're revising copypasted text. Daniel Case (talk) 19:13, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
The article can become a GA. Otherwise, there aren't any exceptions unless an administrator says so. George Ho (talk) 19:33, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Let me just go ask on the talk page ... Daniel Case (talk) 04:47, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
@George Ho: Per the talk page, this comes under Rule A4: "... (copyvios are an exception)" So, you don't have to consider length here. Daniel Case (talk) 13:33, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
I couldn't find a revision that violates a copyright of another source. Can you give me links? George Ho (talk) 22:51, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Take a look at "Involvement With SEMCA" in this revision, from before my first edit, and compare it with passages in this source. Some (the description of a "controlled buy walk" in particular) is word-for-word; other sections seem like close paraphrasing. Daniel Case (talk) 23:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
I couldn't request a deletion on certain revisions, but I'll have someone else review this. I guess I'll waive the expansion requirement then. George Ho (talk) 00:20, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Really good job, @Daniel Case: taking a copyvio-riddled and unorganized piece and turning it into an encyclopedic and interesting article. Per Rule A4, I am treating this as a new article for DYK purposes. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, no close paraphrasing seen. Hook refs verified and cited inline. I deleted "one year ago today", since unfortunately we missed the date. QPQ done. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:59, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I have some concerns about the paraphrasing and verifiability of this article. Examples: "Among the many questions that she wanted answered, the question of whether her son’s death had been ruled a murder or suicide" is quite close to "Chief among the questions she wants answered is if her son’s death has been ruled a suicide or murder", and the detail about rocks in the backpack does not appear in either FN 9 or 11. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:33, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm having a fairly busy weekend; I may not be able to get back to you on this one until Monday. Daniel Case (talk) 13:04, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 Done Daniel Case (talk) 17:40, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
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