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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:15, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

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Dimitri Navachine

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Created by TheGracefulSlick (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Self-nominated at 16:25, 7 May 2017 (UTC).

  • Not a review, but without context or any date indication, the first hook is just... meh! Johnbod (talk) 03:37, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Review I hate the original hook. Boring. The second hook is supported by the first source, but is contradicted by the second. This assassination was unsolved, and some pin it on the fascists (who were trying to sow dissent amidst and fear of the communists) and others think it was the communists because he knew too much. We need a better hook. This was a genuinely interesting historical figure, and we can do better.
New enough. Long enough. Timely nominated. All paragraphs cited. QPQ confirmed. Earwig is clear. Free of close paraphasing or copyright violation. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:24, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
  • User:7&6=thirteen since it was the worst economic recession France has ever faced, I thought it was a little interesting. As for the second hook, the second source that "contradicts" the first was written in 1951. It was useful for information about his earl life but the book provides an in-depth look at the assassination. The method of the killing, a stabbing with a dagger, was unique to the fascists and is connected to other murders from 1937, including the double murder of Carlo Rosselli and his brother.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 20:22, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
  • P.S. - I would happily take any suggestions for the hook. Perhaps something about his assassination being connected to Rosselli or the many enemies he made prior to his death?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 20:27, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
  • ALT 2: ...that Soviet economist banker Dimitri Navachine was assassinated in downtown Paris possibly because he possessed documents that showed innocence of political prisoners being held in Moscow?
Source is El Paso news clip Jan 25, 1937 Police proceeded on the theory Navachine possessed documents establishing innocence of the Moscow prisoners. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:34, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
User:7&6=thirteen I made adjustments to the article and am recommending Doug's (slightly re-worded) hook.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 03:41, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Was bold and struck out original hook and ALT 1 as it appears these are not being considered.
  • Reviewed needed for ALT 2 submitted by nominator.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:34, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
New reviewer needed. I would like to be listed as a cocontributor, along with Doug Coldwell. But given my extensive contributions to this article, a new reviewer is needed. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:51, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
  • ALT 3: ...that Soviet economist Dimitri Navachine, assassinated in Paris in 1937, may have been killed for possessing documents showing that certain Soviet political prisoners were innocent? - originally submitted by User:E.M.Gregory and forgot to sign. I did minor c/e (uncapital May) to this viable hook.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:50, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Sources are
El Paso news clip Jan 25, 1937 Police proceeded on the theory Navachine possessed documents establishing innocence of the Moscow prisoners.
Time & Tide (March 1954) page 570 This was Leon Trotsky's comment: 'Dimitri Navachine knew too much about the Moscow Trials.
  • Was bold and struck out ALT 2 version of my hook, as ALT 3 is the same hook but better worded.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:59, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

New reviewer needed for ALT 3. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:50, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

  • Created on May 5th, nominated on the 7th=New enough. 3580 char=long enough. Neutral. In-line citations. No apparent copyvios. no image. Hook at 183 char=under maximum. Verified with cited source. QPQ done. Appears GTG. SusunW (talk) 22:08, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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