Template:Did you know nominations/Draft:Leon Harrop

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, [[Talk:Draft:Leon Harrop|the article's talk page]] or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) 13:02, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
Nominator was blocked indefinitely, so there is no one to take care of the nomination anymore.

Leon Harrop

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... that British TV actor Leon Harrop was described as a "natural talent" by scriptwriter Jimmy McGovern in Harrop's first TV performance in the BBC drama The Street? Source: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/leons-a-natural-says-top-tv-926293
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Created by NDNSWMI (talk). Self-nominated at 22:47, 25 September 2022 (UTC).

Hi NDNSWMI and thanks for this article! I am a bit concerned with the DYK hook because I do not know if it's "hooky" enough. Is there another hook you can suggest? Also, there are sentences in the article that are missing references. Can these be added too? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:00, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt?4 and NDNSWMI: Would this be a better option for a hook?

ALT1 ... that Leon Harrop started his acting career in BBC's The Street when the show's casting company contacted his school and his teacher suggested him?

ALT1a ... that Leon Harrop started his acting career when a casting company contacted his school and his teacher suggested him?

I think the hook could be reworded further, but that angle seems like a good start in my opinion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:14, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Narutolovehinata5, thank you so much for your assistance! What about:

*ALT2 ... that Leon Harrop's first acting role caused his mother to cry? (based on Harrop says that reading the script made his mother cry)

I am also going to conduct a full review.

@Narutolovehinata5 and HickoryOughtShirt?4: Hello, sorry I havn't responded yet. I don't really have any suggestions for this DYK. I wanted to do a DYK for Lean Harrop as the the show he is starring in is about to air in the UK, Ralph and Katie, and I wanted to bring a bit of attention to him. I do like the the suggestion about his mother, however perhaps it needs to be clear that the crying was out of happpiness for Lean Harrop, don't want people to get the wrong impression :) NDNSWMI (talk) 03:19, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - numerous unsourced sentences
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting: - Being discussed

QPQ: None required.

Overall: HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 14:36, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: I think ALT2 is okay, but since you proposed a new hook fact, a new reviewer will be needed. Is that okay with you? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:41, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Narutolovehinata5, I was using this for my QPQ so I can strike my ALT if needed but if NDNSWMI never replies, this will fail anyways. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:49, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

I don't think it's necessary to strike your ALT. Your QPQ will still stand even if you ask for a new reviewer, as long as you've done a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:53, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Given that Hickory and I have suggested new hooks, a new reviewer is needed to make a final decision. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:07, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
I will unstick this one with a review. It is long enough and new enough. The article needs citations in two parts of the body. ALT2 should be corrected to Harrop said, "reading the script made his mother cry." Lightburst (talk) 15:03, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Anyone have thoughts on this hook request? @NDNSWMI: the nominator. Lightburst (talk) 23:50, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Waiting. I will rewrite the hook for accuracy. The original nominator has not returned so maybe we can hear from Narutolovehinata5? Lightburst (talk) 17:51, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

ALT2a ... that reading the script for Leon Harrop's first acting role caused his mother to cry?

As the source is paywalled (and the usual paywall tricks aren't working for me) I will assume good faith on the sourcing. My concern right now is that there are two CN tags in the article at the moment. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:39, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

@NDNSWMI: Are you still with us? The nomination may have to be failed if the sourcing issues remain unaddressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:27, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
The nominator hasn't responded despite multiple pings and a talk page message despite on-wiki activity; as such the nomination is now marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:00, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Comment: Narutolovehinata5 nominator is Blocked as of December 1, 2022. Lightburst (talk) 04:06, 3 December 2022 (UTC)