- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by HaEr48 (talk) 05:27, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
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Elena Georgieva
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Georgieva in 2007
... that Bulgarian linguist Elena Georgieva (pictured) discovered that instead of routinely conveying Bulgarian words in the format of subject, verb, object, they might be presented in another format to convey emphasis?
Created by SusunW (talk). Nominated by SL93 (talk) at 19:29, 4 April 2017 (UTC).
Interesting life and research, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. - The hook is a bit clumsy, - the lead says it more elegantly. Please try again, and please without all these links to common terms as "verb" - if that needs to mentioned at all (which I doubt). I'd do it myself but then I can't review ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:46, 4 April 2017 (UTC)- The image is licensed, and would be a good illustration. How about the year 2007 in the caption, perhaps instead of her given name? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:48, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
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... that Bulgarian linguist Elena Georgieva (pictured) evolutionized the way that Bulgarian language was studied by proposing that the word order was determined by the functional perspective of the subject and its theme? - I used the lead's sentence, but I just wasn't sure if that was the right thing to do since Topic and comment has an insufficient inline citations tag. I'm not sure what caption is usually used in a DYK picture for a biography. SL93 (talk) 19:54, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
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... that Bulgarian linguist Elena Georgieva (pictured) reported that Bulgarian word order might change based on the emphasis one wanted to convey?SusunW (talk) 20:12, 4 April 2017 (UTC)- Thank you both for ideas. I changed the caption. - I think we can do without a link to Topic and comment, as long as it's clear. (Btw, German does the same, word order changing with emphasis.) So propose:
- ALT3: ... that Bulgarian linguist Elena Georgieva (pictured) revolutionized the way that Bulgarian language was studied by proposing that the word order was determined by the perspective of the subject?
- ALT4: ... that Bulgarian linguist Elena Georgieva (pictured) researched that Bulgarian word order may change based on the emphasis a speaker wants to convey?
if you agree, Bulgarian sources accepted AGF. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- I'm fine with it, but reviewers can't approve their own hooks so I will add this -
Another reviewer is needed to check the new hooks. SL93 (talk) 21:32, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Do you realise that it is your hook and Susun's, just reworded? But new eyes are welcome, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- I do realize that, but it seems to be the usual thing to do. Though the symbol doesn't stop anyone from promoting it if it's not the case. SL93 (talk) 23:16, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Alt4 seems more to the point (although the bit "Georgieva researched that.." will probably sound better if changed to "Georgieva's research showed that..."). On a side note, I can't help giving a sigh at the prospect of readers wanting to find out more about Bulgarian word order and there not being any proper coverage of the topic on wikipedia (well, there is Bulgarian grammar § Word order but that's rather sketchy)... – Uanfala (talk) 21:29, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Based on your good suggestions, how about tweaking the wording and changing the second wiki link like this:
- ALT5: ... that the linguistic research of Elena Georgieva (pictured) showed that Bulgarian word order may change based on the emphasis a speaker wants to convey?
- Alt4 seems more to the point (although the bit "Georgieva researched that.." will probably sound better if changed to "Georgieva's research showed that..."). On a side note, I can't help giving a sigh at the prospect of readers wanting to find out more about Bulgarian word order and there not being any proper coverage of the topic on wikipedia (well, there is Bulgarian grammar § Word order but that's rather sketchy)... – Uanfala (talk) 21:29, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- I do realize that, but it seems to be the usual thing to do. Though the symbol doesn't stop anyone from promoting it if it's not the case. SL93 (talk) 23:16, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Do you realise that it is your hook and Susun's, just reworded? But new eyes are welcome, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
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This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are not in dispute and are cited in line to an English language source; they are best expressed by ALT5. The image is appropriately licensed, the article is neutral and I detected no policy issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:46, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
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